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Fosdick  Suspended Member (Idle past 5520 days) Posts: 1793 From: Upper Slobovia Joined: |
CS writes:
If gays were legally allowed full civil-union rights in every respect, except for the title "marriage," which I believe should apply only to straights, then I think there would be a positive economic effect all around. There might be a positive social effect, too, if gays were more domesticcally secure to adopt children. I think gays would have more of positive role to play in society by improving their domestic conditions. Nobody loses anything. All this and maybe more could be accomplished with full-on, civil-union opportunities for gays. Whether on not they are entitled to call themselves "married" is a trivial issue when it comes down to the bone (sorry, not pun intended). Lets just say that I would like to examine the economic impact one day. Until I actuality find out, it will remain my opinion that it is a bad idea. If I learn that it will not be bad, or is an improvement, then I will change my opinion. ”Hoot Mon
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Fosdick  Suspended Member (Idle past 5520 days) Posts: 1793 From: Upper Slobovia Joined: |
crashfrog wrote;
Sorry, I don't get it. Crashfrog, you might be too abstract for my pre-fossilized mind. How are we going to do that without changing the laws, HM? Which you've stated is something you don't want to happen? Isn't it somewhat disingenuous of you to act like you advocate a policy when you refuse to allow it to be enacted? ”Hoot Mon
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Fosdick  Suspended Member (Idle past 5520 days) Posts: 1793 From: Upper Slobovia Joined: |
crashfrog wrote:
Well, let's vote 'em in then. Haven't I already said that? Let me dumb it down for you, then. Do you understand, Hoot Man, that there are no such things as "civil unions" under any current federal or state statue? That "civil union" is not a legal construct that exists in the United States? And, btw, it's "Hoot Mon," like in "Hoot Mon!" ”Hoot Mon
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Fosdick  Suspended Member (Idle past 5520 days) Posts: 1793 From: Upper Slobovia Joined: |
Jaderis writes:
"Gay Pride parade"? You have "gay pride"? Maybe it's your "pride" that is the problem. Is it anything like "white pride" and the KKK? Or "black pride" and the Black Panthers? Or "automobile pride" and NASCAR? Or "yuppie pride" and Starbucks? What about "human pride"? Now, that's a source for a lot of misery! But, seriously. That brings up an experiment. Why don't you try acting gay (not sexually, mind you, but whatever you might perceive as "acting" gay) for a week. Try to gauge the different looks and attitudes people give you. Maybe come June go to a gay pride parade, too, but on the "side" of the gays and try to experience it as we do. ”Hoot Mon
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Fosdick  Suspended Member (Idle past 5520 days) Posts: 1793 From: Upper Slobovia Joined: |
DC writes:
That's not nice! Do you have some kind of sexual insecurity? Maybe you need your own thread on masturbation: "Jerkin' off gay and proud of it!" How do you manage to type while masturbating like that? Do you have a special device that leaves your hands free? ”Hoot Mon
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Fosdick  Suspended Member (Idle past 5520 days) Posts: 1793 From: Upper Slobovia Joined: |
Just curious, Dan. If science somehow came up with a pill to make you straight, would you take it?
”Hoot Mon
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Fosdick  Suspended Member (Idle past 5520 days) Posts: 1793 From: Upper Slobovia Joined: |
PRIDE = People Realizing Individuality and Diversity through Education
Or: PRIDE = "Pejorative Ridicule In Disfunctional Enterprises" ”Hoot Mon
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Fosdick  Suspended Member (Idle past 5520 days) Posts: 1793 From: Upper Slobovia Joined: |
Hoot Mon wrote:
DC replied: Just curious, Dan. If science somehow came up with a pill to make you straight, would you take it? I doubt it. It'd be a bit of a waste of time. ”Hoot Mon
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Fosdick  Suspended Member (Idle past 5520 days) Posts: 1793 From: Upper Slobovia Joined: |
TD writes:
PERFECT demonstration. You see, homosexuals CAN be married. They can even have children. So what's the big problem? I have a friend whose parents are both gay. Both her father and mother were raised up to be conservative republicans. Her father was raised to be a good husband and her mother a good house wife. Some time after my friend was born, both her parents came to some kind of revelation and both came out. They are still living together and they each have a gay relationship out of marriage. And coincidently, they don't believe in god anymore. ”Hoot Mon
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Fosdick  Suspended Member (Idle past 5520 days) Posts: 1793 From: Upper Slobovia Joined: |
AdminAsgara wrote:
OK, I was mistaken. It was only a hypothetical. Maybe I should have directed my question to Jaderis. I'm still curious as to whether or not she would choose to take that pill. Hoot, you are misreading what Dan is saying. It would be a waste of time for him to take a pill to make him what he already is. Dan is straight. ”Hoot Mon
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Fosdick  Suspended Member (Idle past 5520 days) Posts: 1793 From: Upper Slobovia Joined: |
I suppose it's also possible you're a monkey at a keyboard, hitting random keys, and pounding out post after post through sheer chance. But it seems a bit unlikely.
Well, I monkey around a lot with my sailboat Pearl. Does that qualify? Unless you're infinite monkeys. Are you infinite monkeys? ”Hoot Mon
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Fosdick  Suspended Member (Idle past 5520 days) Posts: 1793 From: Upper Slobovia Joined: |
Define "troll." Is a "troll" anyone who disagrees with you?
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Fosdick  Suspended Member (Idle past 5520 days) Posts: 1793 From: Upper Slobovia Joined: |
I think "troll" has an ambiguous meaning: "To deliberately post derogatory or inflammatory comments to a community forum...to bait other users into responding"? May I remind the folks here that Dan Carroll called me a "bigot"”baiting me”even after I made it entirely clear several times that gays should have all the rights they deserve as human beings to get civilly united? Before that he tried to pimp me into going to pornographic sites and performing masturbation over gay sex pictures. Inflamatory indeed! And then crashfrog quotes me for saying things I never said. That's downright dishonest!
I've been arguing for gay rights all along and these lightweights keep picking on me. ”Hoot Mon Edited by Hoot Mon, : No reason given. Edited by Hoot Mon, : can't tell the frogs from the devils
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Fosdick  Suspended Member (Idle past 5520 days) Posts: 1793 From: Upper Slobovia Joined: |
crashfrog wrote:
Yes, I will. I agree with you that: Oh, poor you. Could you respond to our arguments now, please? 1. Gays are gay more likely by nature than by choice. 2. Gays should not be persecuted or deprived in any unreasonable way for being gay. 3. Gays should have full rights to civil unions. 4. If we treat gays according to items 1, 2 & 3 there should be a positive benefit for society all around. I disagree with you that: A. Gays should have special laws protecting their self-proclaimed rights to same-sex "marriage" (not if they have full-on civil-union rights). B. "Gay pride" is good for gays and their objectives (nor do I think that "straight pride" is good for straights, or that "human pride" is good for humans. Let's get beyond that!) OK, now what did I say that trolled your agenda or flamed you personally? ”Hoot Mon
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Fosdick  Suspended Member (Idle past 5520 days) Posts: 1793 From: Upper Slobovia Joined: |
Oh, frog fluff! Give me something substantial enough to respond to and I'll respond to it.
”Hoot Mon
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