Homosexuality, the natural choice? (Gay Animals are Common)

If gays were legally allowed full civil-union rights in every respect, except for the title "marriage," which I believe should apply only to straights, then I think there would be a positive economic effect all around. There might be a positive social effect, too, if gays were more domesticcally secure to adopt children. I think gays would have more of positive role to play in society by improving their domestic conditions. Nobody loses anything. All this and maybe more could be accomplished with full-on, civil-union opportunities for gays. Whether on not they are entitled to call themselves "married" is a trivial issue when it comes down to the bone (sorry, not pun intended).”Hoot Mon

Sorry, I don't get it. Crashfrog, you might be too abstract for my pre-fossilized mind.”Hoot Mon

Well, let's vote 'em in then. Haven't I already said that?And, btw, it's "Hoot Mon," like in "Hoot Mon!"”Hoot Mon

"Gay Pride parade"? You have "gay pride"? Maybe it's your "pride" that is the problem. Is it anything like "white pride" and the KKK? Or "black pride" and the Black Panthers? Or "automobile pride" and NASCAR? Or "yuppie pride" and Starbucks? What about "human pride"? Now, that's a source for a lot of misery!”Hoot Mon

That's not nice! Do you have some kind of sexual insecurity? Maybe you need your own thread on masturbation: "Jerkin' off gay and proud of it!"”Hoot Mon

Just curious, Dan. If science somehow came up with a pill to make you straight, would you take it?”Hoot Mon

Or:PRIDE = "Pejorative Ridicule In Disfunctional Enterprises"”Hoot Mon

So you would CHOOSE to be gay?”Hoot Mon

PERFECT demonstration. You see, homosexuals CAN be married. They can even have children. So what's the big problem?”Hoot Mon

OK, I was mistaken. It was only a hypothetical. Maybe I should have directed my question to Jaderis. I'm still curious as to whether or not she would choose to take that pill.”Hoot Mon

Well, I monkey around a lot with my sailboat Pearl. Does that qualify?”Hoot Mon

Define "troll." Is a "troll" anyone who disagrees with you?

I think "troll" has an ambiguous meaning: "To deliberately post derogatory or inflammatory comments to a community forum...to bait other users into responding"? May I remind the folks here that Dan Carroll called me a "bigot"”baiting me”even after I made it entirely clear several times that gays should have all the rights they deserve as human beings to get civilly united? Before that he tried to pimp me into going to pornographic sites and performing masturbation over gay sex pictures. Inflamatory indeed! And then crashfrog quotes me for saying things I never said. That's downright dishonest!I've been arguing for gay rights all along and these lightweights keep picking on me.”Hoot MonEdited by Hoot Mon, : No reason given.Edited by Hoot Mon, : can't tell the frogs from the devils

Yes, I will. I agree with you that:1. Gays are gay more likely by nature than by choice.2. Gays should not be persecuted or deprived in any unreasonable way for being gay.3. Gays should have full rights to civil unions.4. If we treat gays according to items 1, 2 & 3 there should be a positive benefit for society all around.I disagree with you that:A. Gays should have special laws protecting their self-proclaimed rights to same-sex "marriage" (not if they have full-on civil-union rights).B. "Gay pride" is good for gays and their objectives (nor do I think that "straight pride" is good for straights, or that "human pride" is good for humans. Let's get beyond that!)OK, now what did I say that trolled your agenda or flamed you personally?”Hoot Mon

Oh, frog fluff! Give me something substantial enough to respond to and I'll respond to it.”Hoot Mon