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Author Topic:   Homosexuality, the natural choice? (Gay Animals are Common)
Fosdick 
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Message 256 of 306 (376229)
01-11-2007 1:26 PM
Reply to: Message 254 by Dan Carroll
01-11-2007 1:16 PM


Re: Homosexuals CAN be married?
I suppose it's also possible you're a monkey at a keyboard, hitting random keys, and pounding out post after post through sheer chance. But it seems a bit unlikely.
Unless you're infinite monkeys. Are you infinite monkeys?
Well, I monkey around a lot with my sailboat Pearl. Does that qualify?
”Hoot Mon

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Message 257 of 306 (376232)
01-11-2007 1:35 PM
Reply to: Message 256 by Fosdick
01-11-2007 1:26 PM


Re: Homosexuals CAN be married?
It was only a hypothetical.
It was, unfortunately, a hypothetical that required me to first be hypothetically gay, then hypothetically turned straight, for us to reach a hypothetical non-point.
As with the gene therapy nonsense, perhaps you could focus your statements a bit more on reality, than on your curiosity about how valid gay marriage would be in the distant future, or in a parallel universe.
Well, I monkey around a lot with my sailboat Pearl. Does that qualify?
This crap was already covered, too. Gosh, it's almost like you are just trolling.

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Message 258 of 306 (376235)
01-11-2007 1:46 PM
Reply to: Message 257 by Dan Carroll
01-11-2007 1:35 PM


Re: Homosexuals CAN be married?
That's why I stopped responding to him. My troll alert went red.

AKA G.A.S.B.Y.
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Fosdick 
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Message 259 of 306 (376238)
01-11-2007 1:53 PM


Troll?
Define "troll." Is a "troll" anyone who disagrees with you?

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crashfrog
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Message 260 of 306 (376286)
01-11-2007 5:29 PM
Reply to: Message 259 by Fosdick
01-11-2007 1:53 PM


Re: Troll?
Is a "troll" anyone who disagrees with you?
No, a troll would be you, who's repeating the same old arguments over and over again, apparently not having read the responses to them the first time.
We've covered why a homosexual's right to enter a straight marriage isn't sufficient, morally or legally. We've covered why it doesn't matter if gay people chose to be gay or not. We've covered why your sailboat is irrelevant to the debate.
Yet, your posts continue to feature these "arguments" as though you're bringing them up for the first time. Why is that? Profound memory issues on your part? I mean, did you notice that we're at nearly 300 posts so far? What did you think we were doing that whole time?

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Message 261 of 306 (376300)
01-11-2007 6:16 PM
Reply to: Message 260 by crashfrog
01-11-2007 5:29 PM


Re: Troll?
Is a "troll" anyone who disagrees with you?
No, a troll would be you, who's repeating the same old arguments over and over again
Actually "troll" is a fairly well defined internet term:
http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/t/troll.html
quote:
troll
(v.) (1) To deliberately post derogatory or inflammatory comments to a community forum, chat room, newsgroup and/or a blog in order to bait other users into responding.
Particularly to get a "flame" response when the victim loses it.

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Fosdick 
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Message 262 of 306 (376322)
01-11-2007 7:29 PM


Trolls, Bigots, Pimps, and Liars
I think "troll" has an ambiguous meaning: "To deliberately post derogatory or inflammatory comments to a community forum...to bait other users into responding"? May I remind the folks here that Dan Carroll called me a "bigot"”baiting me”even after I made it entirely clear several times that gays should have all the rights they deserve as human beings to get civilly united? Before that he tried to pimp me into going to pornographic sites and performing masturbation over gay sex pictures. Inflamatory indeed! And then crashfrog quotes me for saying things I never said. That's downright dishonest!
I've been arguing for gay rights all along and these lightweights keep picking on me.
”Hoot Mon
Edited by Hoot Mon, : No reason given.
Edited by Hoot Mon, : can't tell the frogs from the devils

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crashfrog
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Message 263 of 306 (376342)
01-11-2007 9:23 PM
Reply to: Message 262 by Fosdick
01-11-2007 7:29 PM


Re: Trolls, Bigots, Pimps, and Liars
Oh, poor you.
Could you respond to our arguments now, please?

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Dan Carroll
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Message 264 of 306 (376376)
01-11-2007 11:32 PM
Reply to: Message 262 by Fosdick
01-11-2007 7:29 PM


Re: Trolls, Bigots, Pimps, and Liars
May I remind the folks here that Dan Carroll called me a "bigot"
Tell you what... if you attempt to bait me by referring to me as a tall, American cartoonist, I will not consider it trollish behavior.
Before that he tried to pimp me into going to pornographic sites and performing masturbation over gay sex pictures.
Yeah... good times.

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Fosdick 
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Message 265 of 306 (376496)
01-12-2007 11:36 AM
Reply to: Message 263 by crashfrog
01-11-2007 9:23 PM


Re: Trolls, Bigots, Pimps, and Liars
crashfrog wrote:
Oh, poor you.
Could you respond to our arguments now, please?
Yes, I will. I agree with you that:
1. Gays are gay more likely by nature than by choice.
2. Gays should not be persecuted or deprived in any unreasonable way for being gay.
3. Gays should have full rights to civil unions.
4. If we treat gays according to items 1, 2 & 3 there should be a positive benefit for society all around.
I disagree with you that:
A. Gays should have special laws protecting their self-proclaimed rights to same-sex "marriage" (not if they have full-on civil-union rights).
B. "Gay pride" is good for gays and their objectives (nor do I think that "straight pride" is good for straights, or that "human pride" is good for humans. Let's get beyond that!)
OK, now what did I say that trolled your agenda or flamed you personally?
”Hoot Mon

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Dan Carroll
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Message 266 of 306 (376509)
01-12-2007 12:31 PM
Reply to: Message 265 by Fosdick
01-12-2007 11:36 AM


Gosh. When I called you a troll, I didn't realize that you had the intergrity to blindly repeat your opposition to gay marriage, without addressing any of the 18 pages of arguments against it.
Again.
Edited by Dan Carroll, : No reason given.

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crashfrog
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Message 267 of 306 (376514)
01-12-2007 12:36 PM
Reply to: Message 265 by Fosdick
01-12-2007 11:36 AM


Re: Trolls, Bigots, Pimps, and Liars
OK, now what did I say that trolled your agenda or flamed you personally?
What Dan said. You haven't responded to any arguments; you've simply repeated yourself.

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Fosdick 
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Message 268 of 306 (376520)
01-12-2007 12:46 PM
Reply to: Message 267 by crashfrog
01-12-2007 12:36 PM


Re: Trolls, Bigots, Pimps, and Liars
Oh, frog fluff! Give me something substantial enough to respond to and I'll respond to it.
”Hoot Mon

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crashfrog
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Message 269 of 306 (376523)
01-12-2007 12:52 PM
Reply to: Message 268 by Fosdick
01-12-2007 12:46 PM


Re: Trolls, Bigots, Pimps, and Liars
Give me something substantial enough to respond to and I'll respond to it.
Anyplace in the last 18 pages would be a good start.

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Fosdick 
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Message 270 of 306 (376529)
01-12-2007 1:13 PM
Reply to: Message 269 by crashfrog
01-12-2007 12:52 PM


Re: Trolls, Bigots, Pimps, and Liars
OK Let's start with post #1, by Jagz Beach:
Interesting article on the subject.
this one
Happy V-day everyone
{Note from Adminnemooseus: The above cited article is titled "Gay Animals are Common". I think I'll edit that into the topic title}
I certainly did respond to that. The whole thrust of my interest here is whether or not gay behavior is natural. Since it seems to be, then I must conclude that gay behavior is NOT a choice. Given that, I take the position that gays should be granted their civil-union rights.
How am I doing so far?
”Hoot Mon

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