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Author Topic:   A Guide to the tactics of Evolutionists
Cold Foreign Object 
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Message 136 of 214 (372835)
12-29-2006 6:36 PM
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11-17-2006 3:49 PM


Very good OP Randman!
7. The idea that microevolution is an example of macroevolution writ small. Once again, it's a false idea because the forces of microevolution tend to limit genetic diversity, not increase it.\
8. Claiming the fossil record shows evolutionary transitions when in reality, it shows the opposite.
These are bread and buttter for Darwinists.
#7: Antonyms are not the same but just the opposite. If they were the same then there would not be two different prefixes.
#8: If they misrepresent the undisputed then just think what they do with complicated science?
Now its easy to believe items 1 thru 6.
Ray
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Message 137 of 214 (373133)
12-30-2006 11:16 PM
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12-29-2006 6:36 PM


good points
good comments Herepton....pretty much unchallenged and undebatable really.

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Cold Foreign Object 
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Message 138 of 214 (373770)
01-02-2007 5:14 PM
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12-06-2006 12:44 PM


Admin writes:
Is this a request to remove Dr Adequate's permissions for the Showcase forum?
Please change the rule and allow anyone to enter Showcase? No matter how you slice it the appearance is that evolutionists cannot refute the Creationists who are banished here. Any semi-intelligent person who is not naieve knows the excuse of the inability to follow the rules is about as objective as a Judge deciding a case involving his ex-wife since the Moderators are Darwinists and we are Creationists.
Why not try this idea for the rest of January and see how it works?
Ray

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Message 139 of 214 (373774)
01-02-2007 5:23 PM
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01-02-2007 5:14 PM


good comment but...
While I agree with most of your comment, I think restricting some evos that cannot or will not deal with the ideas presented and just want to foul up the place is a good idea.
Then again, that might eliminate most if not all of them....

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Message 140 of 214 (373804)
01-02-2007 7:29 PM
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01-02-2007 5:23 PM


Re: good comment but...
While I agree with most of your comment, I think restricting some evos that cannot or will not deal with the ideas presented and just want to foul up the place is a good idea.
The price of freedom is association with nuts (persons who abuse freedom). All I want is for a person like Crashfrog to answer a simple question - a question that he avoided like the plague: how does nature know a large population from a small one? Maybe you can answer Randman? Darwinists think that small or stray organisms are the targets of change and selection. I say this is entirely made up since there is no other option. Darwinists deify nature then speak for it - either way intelligence is guiding nature, whether by God or by Darwinian sock puppets.
Ray

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Message 141 of 214 (374052)
01-03-2007 3:25 PM
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01-02-2007 7:29 PM


Re: good comment but...
Good point on Darwinists deifying nature. Incidentally, they also fail to offer a definition for "nature" as well; nor "material" or "physical", and ignore the field of study that involves defining and exploring what constitutes the material world.

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Message 142 of 214 (374515)
01-04-2007 5:13 PM
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01-03-2007 3:25 PM


Re: good comment but...
Good point on Darwinists deifying nature. Incidentally, they also fail to offer a definition for "nature" as well
Generally, evolutionists like to say that they discovered a naturally occurring "law." This allows them to banish God, take His place, and ajudicate the law as its discoverer. We know Darwin loved to say that he discovered the laws of biology. In reality, he established facts, interpreted them in favor of his worldview (materialist-atheism), then euphemistically re-named the facts as "laws." In other words, the Pope of Atheism spoke and that settled it.
Ray

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Message 143 of 214 (377418)
01-16-2007 5:21 PM


More Darwinian Tactics
Whenever a Darwinist cannot refute they will say:
"Where is the evidence?"
"You misunderstand ToE" (in other words, nobody disagrees, imagine that?)
Or they create special forums to banish (censor) the debaters who enrage them. Since Darwinists actually believe apes morphed into men and other sourceless miracles we can plainly see their need for such tactics.
Randman and myself have bested every evolutionist at EvC; the proof of this is our banishment here at Showcase, and no matter what the Darwinian Moderators say, objective persons know these are the real reasons.
Ray

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Message 144 of 214 (377494)
01-17-2007 2:09 AM
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01-16-2007 5:21 PM


Re: More Darwinian Tactics
Good points Herepton.....the funny thing is most evos actually understand ToE less than their critics, and fail to provide any real evidence......the theory shapes the evidence for them and not the other way around, and yet somehow it's their critics that are unreasonable.

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Message 145 of 214 (377495)
01-17-2007 2:10 AM
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01-04-2007 5:13 PM


Re: good comment but...
where does a law come from?
How is material take discrete and definite form?
Evos live in an outdated Newtonian paradigm of unreality.

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Message 146 of 214 (377619)
01-17-2007 5:38 PM
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01-17-2007 2:09 AM


Re: More Darwinian Tactics
the funny thing is most evos actually understand ToE less than their critics
Very true.
The average Darwinist (believe it or not) does not know that the terms "Darwinist" and "Darwinism" originate from Wallace and Huxley; and that every evolutionary authority uses these words to describe themselves. This means the ordinary Darwinist is uneducated not knowing what their own authorities have written during the last 150 years.
These same persons are also totally ignorant to the fact that ALL evolutionary authorities, starting with Darwin in 1859, concede the fact that the world looks designed. Evolution simply says the appearance is produced by natural selection and not God, yet ordinary Darwinists do not know this basic fact.
Again, these same persons are also totally ignorant to the fact that ToE presupposes Methodological Naturalism as factually true: evidence is interpreted to support the suppositions (= anti-Bible) whether it makes sense or not. In other words, ToE is true by definition as required by the presuppositions of its philosophy.
This is why I point out that ToE is atheist philosophy packaged as "science."
and fail to provide any real evidence......the theory shapes the evidence for them and not the other way around, and yet somehow it's their critics that are unreasonable.
That's what I said.
Ray

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Message 147 of 214 (377620)
01-17-2007 5:45 PM
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01-17-2007 5:38 PM


Re: More Darwinian Tactics
In other words, ToE is true by definition as required by the presuppositions of its philosophy.
This is why I point out that ToE is atheist philosophy packaged as "science."
Bingo.
Reiteration for any lurkers: Evos insist that reality cannot, by definition, include a God or spiritual forces that act upon, within, or uphold, or even originate reality.
Edited by randman, : No reason given.

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Message 148 of 214 (377622)
01-17-2007 5:50 PM
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Re: good comment
where does a law come from?
The voluminous Darwin literature indicates that Darwin adopted the term to emulate the discipline of physics.
It sounds scientific and has a stipulated meaning disattached from Divinity. But common sense says that law indicates order and a Giver, unless you are a Darwinist with atheistic needs.
Ray

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Message 149 of 214 (377704)
01-18-2007 1:30 AM
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01-17-2007 5:50 PM


fear among evos to discuss issues
BTw, it's interesting that the Darwinists here are afraid to debate/discuss the issue without the cover of evo biased moderation.

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Message 150 of 214 (378148)
01-19-2007 6:37 PM
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01-18-2007 1:30 AM


Re: fear among evos to discuss issues
BTw, it's interesting that the Darwinists here are afraid to debate/discuss the issue without the cover of evo biased moderation.
Email me and I will show you a high traffic place where we can debate published evos without any moderation. But beware; without Mods the things evos resort to is apalling.
Ray
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