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AdminWounded
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Message 121 of 301 (378134)
01-19-2007 5:33 PM
Reply to: Message 61 by arachnophilia
01-18-2007 1:35 PM


Re: Bannings
Percy very helpfully cleared this up for me. In order to get this information all you need to do is go to the Members link under the banner and sort them by the righmost column which is their suspension status.
If you hover the mouse over the little suspension icon then it will give you the reason behind the suspension of that particular member.
So there you go, you could do it all the time. You'd think I might know something like that as a moderator, but you'd be wrong.
TTFN,
AW
Edited by AdminWounded, : No reason given.

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jar
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Posts: 34026
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Message 122 of 301 (378137)
01-19-2007 5:46 PM
Reply to: Message 121 by AdminWounded
01-19-2007 5:33 PM


Re: Bannings
That doesn't show most of the banned members. Most of the spammers that are caught before they post and all of the SpamBots are marked inactive and so will not show.
IIRC we got about ten to twenty SpamBots for every Spammer that made it to the board. That would indicate that the actual number of banned folk is something like ten to twenty times what will show on the suspended member lists.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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Dr Adequate
Member (Idle past 285 days)
Posts: 16113
Joined: 07-20-2006


Message 123 of 301 (378141)
01-19-2007 6:05 PM
Reply to: Message 96 by randman
01-19-2007 2:43 PM


Re: sorry rand
Moreover, you guys are not actually allowing fair discussion in allowing your critics to present the facts to support their argument that they feel is necessary. Instead, you try to control what facts can actually be presented in an argument. Evos can, say, bring up natural selection on a non-natural selection thread as a point of evidence or part of a larger concept.
I bring up evidence such as Haeckel or other errors of evos as evidence on a thread or a point as to why or how evos would have missed something or the evo mentality, and that's seen as a rules violation. It's not. It's using a set of facts to discuss the topic. The problem is you guys want to define what sets of facts can and cannot be used.
If I bring up the fact evos discriminate seemingly against IDers, or use the courts to forbid the presentation of ID in schools, somehow I am smearing evos and so in a rules violation.
The interpretation of the rules is such that they are basically a debating tool of evos here, which is why so few evos are willing to debate on Showcase, I suspect.
You are a liar.
I wish to debate you on the thread that you started. Gibbering with fear, you have begged the moderators to protect your garbage from my intelligence.
I want to debate you. Will you permit me to debate you?
I want to debate you. Will you permit me to debate you?
I want to debate you. Will you permit me to debate you?
I want to debate you. Will you permit me to debate you?
I want to debate you. Will you permit me to debate you?
I want to debate you. Will you permit me to debate you?
I want to debate you. Will you permit me to debate you?
I want to debate you. Will you permit me to debate you?
I want to debate you. Will you permit me to debate you?
I want to debate you. Will you permit me to debate you?
If you are too much of a crawling whining coward to debate me, please pretend that you have some other reason besides being a crawling little coward.
Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.
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arachnophilia
Member (Idle past 1344 days)
Posts: 9069
From: god's waiting room
Joined: 05-21-2004


Message 124 of 301 (378146)
01-19-2007 6:26 PM
Reply to: Message 121 by AdminWounded
01-19-2007 5:33 PM


Re: Bannings
Percy very helpfully cleared this up for me. In order to get this information all you need to do is go to the Members link under the banner and sort them by the righmost column which is their suspension status.
If you hover the mouse over the little suspension icon then it will give you the reason behind the suspension of that particular member.
So there you go, you could do it all the time. You'd think I might know something like that as a moderator, but you'd be wrong.
ah ha, i figured it would be something relatively easy like that. thanks!
Edited by arachnophilia, : No reason given.


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arachnophilia
Member (Idle past 1344 days)
Posts: 9069
From: god's waiting room
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Message 125 of 301 (378147)
01-19-2007 6:33 PM
Reply to: Message 116 by randman
01-19-2007 3:37 PM


Re: in defense of randman
Your comment that I have a history of booting people off for making a good argument is wholly and completely false.
it appears that dr. adequate wants to debate you, and you booted him off. since you are technically in control of moderating that thread, i believe this is the correct thread to question you on that.


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AdminBuzsaw
Inactive Member


Message 126 of 301 (378152)
01-19-2007 6:46 PM
Reply to: Message 123 by Dr Adequate
01-19-2007 6:05 PM


Re: About those Forum Guidelines
DA, unless you want time out you need to cool it and cease/desist calling Randman or any other member a liar unless you can, without loosing your cool, document empirically on the spot that what has been alleged is clearly an intentional lie and not a statement to which you do not agree. You are no more exempt from this violation of Forum Guidelines than any other member including Randman.
Sorry to have to admonish you so soon after you spoke well of me but please, the term is mistaken or some synonomous term.
Edited by AdminBuzsaw, : Eliminate phrase
Edited by AdminBuzsaw, : To refix the fix

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randman 
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Joined: 05-26-2005


Message 127 of 301 (378154)
01-19-2007 6:56 PM
Reply to: Message 123 by Dr Adequate
01-19-2007 6:05 PM


liar, eh?
Glad to see a creationist moderator stepped in.....Probably should not respond to childishness, but DA you refused to debate when you had the chance.
I'd welcome you to come and debate if you are committed to debating rather than just name-calling and dodging the thread.
Tell you what. There is a thread on TalkOrigins in Showcase. I'll give you another shot and let you comment on that thread. If you are making points to move the thread forward, fine. If you are just there to solely throw baseless accusations without bothering to actually discuss the topic, then you are not welcome. Likewise, if you don't appear mentally capable of understanding the discussion, you get the boot as well. So make your case about the topic, backed up, to the point, etc,.....waste pages, and you get booted.
Keep in mind this is a last chance sort of thing......don't go whining about being booted and begging to be let back on if you foul up the discussion with nonsense.
Edited by randman, : No reason given.

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Cold Foreign Object 
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Joined: 11-21-2003


Message 128 of 301 (378163)
01-19-2007 7:18 PM
Reply to: Message 117 by randman
01-19-2007 3:58 PM


Re: in defense of randman
Randman writes:
LOL. So I am the liar....SNIP
Randman: There is no sting or truth in being called a liar by a person who believes that apes morphed into men or that the appearance of design indicates a blind and mindless process instead of invisible Designer.
Ray

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Admin
Director
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Member Rating: 2.3


Message 129 of 301 (378164)
01-19-2007 7:21 PM
Reply to: Message 125 by arachnophilia
01-19-2007 6:33 PM


Re: in defense of randman
Access to Showcase granted.
I want to stress that regular members are expected to follow the Forum Guidelines, even when in Showcase.
Before you two go at it I'd just like to say that giving as good as you get in trash talking isn't what EvC Forum is looking for. The goal here is constructive discussion.

--Percy
EvC Forum Director

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randman 
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Posts: 6367
Joined: 05-26-2005


Message 130 of 301 (378165)
01-19-2007 7:23 PM
Reply to: Message 129 by Admin
01-19-2007 7:21 PM


Re: in defense of randman
The goal here is constructive discussion.
Yep, and unless I see that right off the bat, DA gets booted. I really don't care how much he complains. One of the first aspects of constructive discussion is understanding the other side's point.

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arachnophilia
Member (Idle past 1344 days)
Posts: 9069
From: god's waiting room
Joined: 05-21-2004


Message 131 of 301 (378277)
01-20-2007 12:49 AM
Reply to: Message 129 by Admin
01-19-2007 7:21 PM


Re: in defense of randman
Access to Showcase granted.
for me? i wasn't asking -- i was just questioning rand (as moderator of his own thread) about dr. a's permissions.


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Dr Adequate
Member (Idle past 285 days)
Posts: 16113
Joined: 07-20-2006


Message 132 of 301 (378295)
01-20-2007 4:53 AM
Reply to: Message 126 by AdminBuzsaw
01-19-2007 6:46 PM


Re: About those Forum Guidelines
DA, unless you want time out you need to cool it and cease/desist calling Randman or any other member a liar unless you can, without loosing your cool, document empirically on the spot that what has been alleged is clearly an intentional lie...
Sure thing.
Randman knows perfectly well that he had me removed from this thread, and not vice versa. Yet he's still pretending that:
DA you refused to debate when you had the chance.
This is a lie, not a mistake. He knows that I want to debate him; he knows that he prevented it. He is a liar.

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Dr Adequate
Member (Idle past 285 days)
Posts: 16113
Joined: 07-20-2006


Message 133 of 301 (378297)
01-20-2007 5:03 AM
Reply to: Message 128 by Cold Foreign Object
01-19-2007 7:18 PM


Re: in defense of randman
Randman: There is no sting or truth in being called a liar by a person who believes that apes morphed into men or that the appearance of design indicates a blind and mindless process instead of invisible Designer.
Actually, you can't deprive my statements of truth by reciting magic words. This won't make the facts go away.
Oh, wait, I'm talking to a creationist, aren't I? If you could understand that, you'd be cured.

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Admin
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Message 134 of 301 (378323)
01-20-2007 9:46 AM
Reply to: Message 131 by arachnophilia
01-20-2007 12:49 AM


Re: in defense of randman
God, how'd I do that. I'm removing your access and giving it to Dr. A. Thanks for alerting me to the mistake.

--Percy
EvC Forum Director

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Admin
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Message 135 of 301 (378324)
01-20-2007 9:48 AM
Reply to: Message 123 by Dr Adequate
01-19-2007 6:05 PM


Re: sorry rand
Access to Showcase granted, but please keep in mind that regular members are expected to follow the Forum Guidelines, even in Showcase.

--Percy
EvC Forum Director

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