Black Rednecks and White Liberals (by Thomas Sowell)

Crash, you're soooo impossible to reason with. This is plain ole spin. NJ's message which you responded to correctly stated that in America blacks have the same educational advantages as whites and in fact more so since schools generally go out of their way to see to it that they succeed
. We know that to be the case.If you don't agree, why not just say so and move on rather than rehashing the same ole in your futile attempt to paint NJ as a racist?NJ's statement: "The liberal mantra is that its racism. This is such a specious plea because blacks have the same chance to excel as anyone else, especially in the public school system that go out of their way to try and ensure their success. Its not racism. Its an unwillingness due to a culturally lax attitude that hinders them. You are trying to pass the blame on anyone except the obvious."

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

Crash must be a regular fan/viewer of Fox. Otherwise how could he claim to have an authoritative opinion? I'm a Fox regular and I see plenty of both liberal blacks & whites, including the outer fringe kooky ones being interviewed right along with conservative folks.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

Thanks NJ. I hope you will not hesitate to moderate me also if you see where it might be wise and beneficial to the board at large. Hopefully we can work to establish a good image for the creo team here at EvC.

1. Perhaps if you were in a predominanly black area where the police had experienced a history of danger to vulnerable loner whites unable to protect themselves, they had good reason according to past observation for the warning.2. Perhaps also if you were blacks in a rougher predominantly white area known for drugs/violence the same police would offer the same warning to you.3. Racism has forever in human history been a natural tendency among the races when humans attempt to mix racially. That is evident in the churches and schools today. Check out the churches where there's no government mandate to integrate. White's by and large tend by choice to attend white churches and black's tendency is to choose to attend black churches. It's natural. I don't see why the naturalist science minded folks act as though it's such an unusual and awful thing for the racism tendency among humans.You're not going to find me alone with my wife or a friend on the streets in one of the notorious black areas of any city. Nor would I want to lurk in a notorious white area, though due to the reality of the race factor, if I were black, likely I'd be somewhat safer in the rough black area and vise versa for the white in the rough white area.I'm not sure if this has any bearing on the Sowell book. My apologies to NJ if not, but as NJ has noted, the thread's quite derailed as it is as he's been obliged to respond to a lot of nitpickin off the topic rabbit trails. Posting no response, persistent opponents probably would protest.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

If you'd communicate nice we might talk. Otherwise you can take a walk.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

Crash, I've had a number of friends over the years and still do, including beloved Christian brothers and sisters in Christ. By your own admission we all have a racial tendency so don't try to use that to attempt to malign me.Racial is not hateful. I believe God created the races at Bable in the Genesis record for his own purpose, so imo, God, the creator was the first racist perse. Personally I'd prefer my children to have spouces of similar race due to this natural racial tendency, but would be ever as congenial to their spouse if they had married one of another color. Most (abe: both black and white) agree about their own children whether or not they would say so.I would be inclined to treat a black neighbor equally as well as one of my own race. My son has a fine black neighbor family next door to him down south whom we both regard very highly.I voted for Allen Keys, a black when he ran for president solely on the basis that he would have represented my views more than any of the other candidates. Edited by Buzsaw, : No reason given.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

1. Perhaps the stats are that per capita blacks have a higher crime rate percentage.2. Almost always? I doubt that and btw, I wonder what percentage of the time do the arrested suspects turn out to be the wrong person? Likely not a high percentage overall. Cops usually do sufficient investigating, surveilance, et al before arresting to get the goods so as to keep their job and keep out of hot water.3. Likely cops are more prone to care in dealing with blacks than with whites because of the racist accusations by black suspects which tend to get cops in hot water.

Yes, because they're usually proven to be fraudulent charges by those who use the race card.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28