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nator Member (Idle past 2196 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: No. It matters if it is a crime or not. And you do know that the overwhelming majority of child molestors are straight males, don't you?
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jar Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
More shell games.
Don't you EVER get tired of trying to misdiret the audience? Rob blathers:
So, it doesn't matter if we think that child moesting is a valid lifestyle? It's none of my business or yours? Consistency jar... You've lost your mind. What is the topic Rob? You are typical of the Christian Evangelicals and Fundamentalists, typical of the Televangelist and other Snake Oil Salesmen and Conmen. The topic is "Discrimination against homosexuals carried into the 21st century" not child molestation. Homosexuality is a consensual activity between two adults. It is not an adult taking advantage of a child. For you to equate the two is simply more of the dishonesty so common today in Christianity. The issue is whether or not homosexuals should be allowed to donate blood. The only possible negative consequence of homosexuals contributing blood MIGHT be the possibility of HIV infection. There are simple low cost procedures that would minimize that risk.
Again, other peoples sins are none of your business. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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ringo Member (Idle past 439 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Rob writes: I think the whole world shoul do everything in it's power to cater to the prefered lifestyle of (what? 2- 6% of the poplulation). Yes, I agree that we should do everything in our power to accomodate minorities.
No matter the cost. You just said that "Aids has nothing to do with homosexuality," so what "cost" are you talking about?
No matter the inconvenience.... If it's "inconvenient" to do what's right, boo hoo. Do it anyway.
... or danger. @#$% the danger.
quote: If blood supplies have to cost a fortune to process then that is the cost we must pay.... Agreed.
We will change the world just for you... Thanks. I appreciate it. Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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Fosdick  Suspended Member (Idle past 5527 days) Posts: 1793 From: Upper Slobovia Joined: |
No, most bacteria replicate through assexual cell division.
Oh, but they conjugate, too, which probably feels a lot better. ”Hoot Mon
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Rob  Suspended Member (Idle past 5875 days) Posts: 2297 Joined: |
However, I do not have the right to prevent anyone else from living as a Fundamentalist Christian if they so choose, as long as that lifestyle does not impose upon the rights of others. All of our lifestyles do impose upon each other. That is the nature of community and sharing one planet. and that is why we have this conflict. No man is an island. What each of thinks matters because those thoughts then manifest themselves into actions that affect all of us. To say it is none of our business is utterly illogical.
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nator Member (Idle past 2196 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Our lifestyles cannot legaly impose upon the rights of others. Not in the US, anyway. So, it doesn't matter if you and others in your church want to force prayer into the public schools; it is illegal to do so because it uses the government to impose your religious beliefs upon others. Similarly, you want to use the government to impose your religious beliefs upon others by defining marriage the way your religion does.
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Rob  Suspended Member (Idle past 5875 days) Posts: 2297 Joined: |
Yes, I agree that we should do everything in our power to accomodate minorities. Well then be consistent. Homosexuals are not the only minority . You do understand that do you not? What good for the goose is good for the gander my fiend. We do not live in a vaccume. Are you willing to provide that same courtiousy to those who wish to court their pets? After all, it's someone elses sin and is none of your business according to jar? What about theiving politicians? It's none of your business. I really can't believe how utterly selfish all of you are... it is disturbing. Ringo: @#$% the danger. You might as well say, I could give a damn about logic and reason. I want it my way and I intend to have it. I could care less what anyone else thinks! That is the heart of the beast. It's fatal wound is miraculously healed by the harlots and sourceries of madness! Oh mighty Babylon! I despise you and your end will be what you deserve. You've gone down to the pit. Edited by Rob, : No reason given.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1494 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Oh, but they conjugate, too Both ways, typically; if you think that's exactly like a normal heterosexual relationship in humans, then I suggest you need to stop picking up "women" in bars with names like "The Manhole." Also, much like your little adventures, bacterial conjugation is not a form of sexual reproduction because gametes are not fused to form a zygote. Rather, bacterial conjugation simply represents an exchange of donor mobile plasmids between individuals. No new individuals are created.
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nator Member (Idle past 2196 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Bacteria don't feel anything, since they lack a nervous system. Some advice? Stop trying to be funny.
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Fosdick  Suspended Member (Idle past 5527 days) Posts: 1793 From: Upper Slobovia Joined: |
jar writes:
Hold on. Do I have to be accused of being a Christian to disagree with this idea that homosexuality is restricted to adults? At what age does gay-ness set in? 18? 21? I thought gays were born that way, no choice at all. Homosexuality is a consensual activity between two adults. It is not an adult taking advantage of a child. For you to equate the two is simply more of the dishonesty so common today in Christianity. ”Hoot Mon
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1494 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Rob, could you substantiate your assertion that preventing same-sex marriage will reduce the incidence of sexual abuse of children?
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nator Member (Idle past 2196 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: No, because pets cannot give legal consent. Why is it, Rob, that in your and so many homophobes' minds, adult gay human beings are equivalent to dogs or other non-human animals?
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1494 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
I thought gays were born that way, no choice at all. People are born with their sexual orientation (in all likelyhood in most cases), but people are not born with the wherewithall to consent to sexual activity. But, of course, I suspect you already knew that when you attempted to sandbag the debate by equivocating homosexuality with peodphilia. I don't know if you have to be Christian to be dishonest, but in my experience it certainly makes it easier.
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Fosdick  Suspended Member (Idle past 5527 days) Posts: 1793 From: Upper Slobovia Joined: |
Also, much like your little adventures, bacterial conjugation is not a form of sexual reproduction because gametes are not fused to form a zygote. Rather, bacterial conjugation simply represents an exchange of donor mobile plasmids between individuals. No new individuals are created.
You're entirely right. But would you mind showing me where I said it was "a form sexual reproduction." ”Hoot Mon
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1494 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
But would you mind showing me where I said it was "a form sexual reproduction." Message 147, your words:
quote: When Shraf disagreed that this was how bacteria reproduced, you contradicted her in message 169:
quote: Where you clearly make the assertion that bacterial conjugation was an additional form of bacterial reproduction, which it is not.
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