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Topic: General Discussion Of Moderation Procedures 9.0
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Omnivorous
Member Posts: 3988 From: Adirondackia Joined: 07-21-2005 Member Rating: 6.9
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Message 70 of 301 (377891)
01-18-2007 8:37 PM
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Reply to: Message 68 by randman
01-18-2007 8:21 PM
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Re: Why you are restricted, again.
randman writes: Admin, that's pretty much bull crap and you know it. Guess you found another liar, huh? But then, you always do. Just you, Diogenese and Ol' Rabid Ray, trudging down the beach, looking for an honest man and avoiding the mirror... I oppose the Showcase. I think you should either be banned entirely or allowed full privileges and held to the same standards as every other member. Of course, that would mean your suspension on an almost daily basis, but that's how you teach infants, toddlers, and delinquents--fair discipline, consistently applied. My understanding from past discussions is that that approach was considered more work that you were worth--in which case you should be banned.
Drinking when we are not thirsty and making love at any time, madam, is all that distinguishes us from the other animals. -Pierre De Beaumarchais (1732-1799)
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Omnivorous
Member Posts: 3988 From: Adirondackia Joined: 07-21-2005 Member Rating: 6.9
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Re: Why you are restricted, again.
I don't see this as a lie accusation so much as I see it as a poor manner of addressing ADMIN so as to communicate that he may be mistaken.  Nice apologetics, Buz. And, true, some people think that you have to whack others with a 2x4 to get their attention before communication can occur. But "that's bull crap and you know it" is pretty much a charge of lying. I suppose you could call it an accusation of hypocrisy, but there is no essential difference.
Drinking when we are not thirsty and making love at any time, madam, is all that distinguishes us from the other animals. -Pierre De Beaumarchais (1732-1799)
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Omnivorous
Member Posts: 3988 From: Adirondackia Joined: 07-21-2005 Member Rating: 6.9
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Message 142 of 301 (378542)
01-21-2007 2:27 AM
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Reply to: Message 140 by randman
01-20-2007 5:16 PM
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Re: About those Forum Guidelines
The truth is I appreciate the potential Showcase has for real discussion, and have no interest in rejoining the regular forum unless and until there are substantial changes. The truth is that you would rather enjoy the illusion of power in your grubby little zoo than live by the rules of civil discourse enforced by someone else.
An example of even-handedness would have been your permanent banning for repeatedly falsely calling someone a liar. That was presumably the reason given for banning me, and yet you have merely been warned despite your infractions being far more severe on this point. You are delusional. This forum suffered a thousand times the calumny from you than you have recieved before you were banned, and at every turn you cried censorship. Surprise! The whiner is a bully. Also, you really are a liar and a coward, and Dr. A is not.
Drinking when we are not thirsty and making love at any time, madam, is all that distinguishes us from the other animals. -Pierre De Beaumarchais (1732-1799)
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Omnivorous
Member Posts: 3988 From: Adirondackia Joined: 07-21-2005 Member Rating: 6.9
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An Elegy for Dr. Adequate, Over-Suspended Over A Troll
arach writes: charges of lies are generally considered unacceptable behaviour around here. even if they're true. It seems you can neither call a liar a liar, nor a lie a lie. If Admin has recently been scrupulously fair to you, you will pay especially heavily if you persist in doing so; but if you are a troll who labels others liars but lacks the balls to use the word, "O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay! He chortled in his joy!" In the spirit of that jabberwocky state of affairs, I offer: An Elegy for Dr. Adequate, Over-Suspended Over A Troll There once was an Internet forum
Where you could dazzle or b.s. or bore 'em:
You could even tell lies
Without fear of replies
That favored the truth o'er decorum.
Drinking when we are not thirsty and making love at any time, madam, is all that distinguishes us from the other animals. -Pierre De Beaumarchais (1732-1799)
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Omnivorous
Member Posts: 3988 From: Adirondackia Joined: 07-21-2005 Member Rating: 6.9
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Message 156 of 301 (378946)
01-22-2007 2:04 PM
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Reply to: Message 154 by PaulK
01-22-2007 1:52 PM
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Re: An Elegy for Dr. Adequate, Over-Suspended Over A Troll
PaulK, one does not rebut Art. I would add, however, that (A) a one week suspension was threatened for any further infraction, but (B) one month was imposed. What does that make A? Dr. Adequate sinned no more grievously than I did for my one day suspension.
Drinking when we are not thirsty and making love at any time, madam, is all that distinguishes us from the other animals. -Pierre De Beaumarchais (1732-1799)
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Omnivorous
Member Posts: 3988 From: Adirondackia Joined: 07-21-2005 Member Rating: 6.9
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Message 173 of 301 (378978)
01-22-2007 3:58 PM
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Reply to: Message 159 by Admin
01-22-2007 2:44 PM
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Re: An Elegy for Dr. Adequate, Over-Suspended Over A Troll
IIRC, Dr. A did, in fact, stop calling randman a liar and instead dismissed (accurately and supportably, IMHO) specific utterances as lies. This may not be enough change on his part to satisfy you, but it was change, and change in the direction you urged. If Dr. A had responded, "That is an untruth."--would that be a month-long suspension. If Dr. A had responded, "That is not true."--would that be a month-long suspension? I don't think you were a schmuck to stick up for Dr. A: in fact, I admired you for it. But Dr. A shouldn't sit out a month because the incident made you feel like a schmuck.
The Showcase forum is here only because so many people expressed an interest in discussion with the unmoderatable like Randman. But if the interest isn't so much in discussion but more in rattling the monkey cage, then Showcase should be eliminated because it simply attracts and emphasizes the worst from both sides. Bingo.
Drinking when we are not thirsty and making love at any time, madam, is all that distinguishes us from the other animals. -Pierre De Beaumarchais (1732-1799)
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Omnivorous
Member Posts: 3988 From: Adirondackia Joined: 07-21-2005 Member Rating: 6.9
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Re: A Question
Yeah but they were black and white on different sides. I can't believe you just hand-waved that essential part of it away.
Drinking when we are not thirsty and making love at any time, madam, is all that distinguishes us from the other animals. -Pierre De Beaumarchais (1732-1799)
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Omnivorous
Member Posts: 3988 From: Adirondackia Joined: 07-21-2005 Member Rating: 6.9
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Re: A Question
crash writes: Why wasn't Dr. A showcased, instead? Excellent idea. If full-time denizens of Showcase are there because they are incorrigible, then why not have short-term suspensions served there as well? That would improve the Showcase neighborhood, provide consistent justice, and (likely, shudder) inhibit repeat offenses. Edited by Omnivorous, : removed the stupid "both" before three things
Drinking when we are not thirsty and making love at any time, madam, is all that distinguishes us from the other animals. -Pierre De Beaumarchais (1732-1799)
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Omnivorous
Member Posts: 3988 From: Adirondackia Joined: 07-21-2005 Member Rating: 6.9
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Dr Adequate and CK haved been banned. I protest: these persons should not be banned. AdminModulous is drunk on "power" and should be relieved of his duties. He makes no sense and seems to be the stereotypical college type kid attempting to impress his older Darwinian handlers who have taken him in at the expense of EvC patrons. Ray Nonsense--first, neither was banned; second, AdminModulous said what he would do, and that's what he did. And in my own case, my remarks were an act of uncivil disobedience, and I respect AdminMod's judgments and actions. Ray, in the context of the ongoing discussion about charges of lying and mental illness, let me assure you that I have never thought you were a liar.
Drinking when we are not thirsty and making love at any time, madam, is all that distinguishes us from the other animals. -Pierre De Beaumarchais (1732-1799)
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Omnivorous
Member Posts: 3988 From: Adirondackia Joined: 07-21-2005 Member Rating: 6.9
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Re: What would you have us do?
Hilarious! The exact situation I referred to, which people thought was so unlikely it could never occur, is occuring in this very thread. Thanks, Herp! Old bedouin saying: Wait in your tent patiently, and watch another carry your enemy's body.
Drinking when we are not thirsty and making love at any time, madam, is all that distinguishes us from the other animals. -Pierre De Beaumarchais (1732-1799)
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Omnivorous
Member Posts: 3988 From: Adirondackia Joined: 07-21-2005 Member Rating: 6.9
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Re: What would you have us do?
Herepton writes: You are left with two choices: 1. Admit or 2. Lie some more and insult everyones intelligence. You should admit, PaulK. Ray Quote the whole post. Your quote-mining=inability to refute.
PaulK writes: I faced Randman arguing that an essay on talkorigins.org claimed that universal common descent was a fact when it explicitly said that universal common descent should not be considered a fact. And Randman continued blustering and arguing long after it was pointed out. I know what he's like. And I argue that they are evidence of mental illness, not dishonesty.
Drinking when we are not thirsty and making love at any time, madam, is all that distinguishes us from the other animals. -Pierre De Beaumarchais (1732-1799)
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Omnivorous
Member Posts: 3988 From: Adirondackia Joined: 07-21-2005 Member Rating: 6.9
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Message 212 of 301 (379054)
01-22-2007 7:11 PM
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QED
Whistling far and wee, his work done here, Omni exits this metonymical (or is that synecdochical?) thread, stage left.
Drinking when we are not thirsty and making love at any time, madam, is all that distinguishes us from the other animals. -Pierre De Beaumarchais (1732-1799)
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Omnivorous
Member Posts: 3988 From: Adirondackia Joined: 07-21-2005 Member Rating: 6.9
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Message 229 of 301 (379104)
01-22-2007 11:04 PM
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Reply to: Message 216 by ekman
01-22-2007 7:39 PM
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ekman writes: Wow. I would like to compliment you all on a very fine train wreck. Personally, I'm not sure why anyone would bother to engage either Randman (though I've done so on other sites) or Herepton. Thank you. I prefer to think of it as a frank and vigorous exchange of views.
Drinking when we are not thirsty and making love at any time, madam, is all that distinguishes us from the other animals. -Pierre De Beaumarchais (1732-1799)
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Omnivorous
Member Posts: 3988 From: Adirondackia Joined: 07-21-2005 Member Rating: 6.9
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Message 230 of 301 (379106)
01-22-2007 11:08 PM
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Reply to: Message 215 by ringo
01-22-2007 7:32 PM
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Re: An Elegy for Dr. Adequate, Over-Suspended Over A Troll
Ringo writes: The sane are expected to be sane, even when visiting the asylum. True, as far as it goes. But in my experience, asylum residents who throw feces at visitors lose their privileges: tolerating unacceptable behavior from the impaired does them no favors. AbE: I know I said I was exiting this thread. I lied. Edited by Omnivorous, : apparent
Drinking when we are not thirsty and making love at any time, madam, is all that distinguishes us from the other animals. -Pierre De Beaumarchais (1732-1799)
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Omnivorous
Member Posts: 3988 From: Adirondackia Joined: 07-21-2005 Member Rating: 6.9
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Re: What would you have us do?
arach writes: i'm confused, ray. are you complaining, or aren't you? if you're not offended at all, what's the big deal, exactly? Ray is of two minds. They don't get along.
Drinking when we are not thirsty and making love at any time, madam, is all that distinguishes us from the other animals. -Pierre De Beaumarchais (1732-1799)
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