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doctrbill
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Message 29 of 32 (377488)
01-17-2007 1:45 AM
Reply to: Message 27 by jar
01-02-2007 10:43 PM


Re: Apocalyptic Signifigance.
jar writes:
... the phrase "run to and fro" ... refers to pointless movement ....
I believe sir, that the truth of this matter can in no way harm your philosophy, although it may lead you to understand more fully the significant folly of certain popular interpretations. I am sorry to equivocate upon the immense insight of your orangosity but must point out the likelihood that this expression was intended as, and may be understood in terms of: a metaphor. To wit: the motion of searching through a scroll (running it back and forth)
The Hebrew word could serve as a root for our word 'shuttle;' not as a matter of conveyance but rather as a rhythmic motion. The veracity of this notion may be observed in the Hebrew lexicon shown on this page. Please pay special attention to the last entry, regarding metaphorical usage, and specifying Daniel 12:4 as prime example.
The angel seems to be predicting that knowledge of Daniel’s work would increase as people studied it heretofore. It is clearly not a prediction of the Scientific Revolution nor of the Information Age. It is not a prediction of automobiles or air travel. It is simply saying that someday, people will come to understand the book. And the author of Matthew believed that day had come in his own time: Matthew 24:15
Hope this helps; and if not then rise up and slap someone silly.
Thank You.

Theology is the science of Dominion.
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doctrbill
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Message 30 of 32 (380477)
01-27-2007 1:02 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by Vacate
01-01-2007 10:37 PM


Re: Apocalyptic Apathy
Vacate writes:
All I see from the phophecies are an excuse to ruin our planet, encourage terrorism, and scan the news to find something, anything, that could be vaguely linked to a phophecy. This does not promote humanities development, nor make any attempt to save this planet.
Hear, Hear!
Your observation goes to the heart of the matter.
As former CEO of a minor Environmentalist group, I was attacked in the media by a fundy preacher who asserted:
quote:
"The ecologist is in conflict with humanity ... God is going to roll up this old earth, throw it away, and give us a new one."
The preacher's venemous attack reminded me of where my own mind had been prior to becoming that of a godless eco-nut. I perceived that he spoke for much of Christendom and that his exegesis was incorrect. I believed that Chrisianity's festering religio-political chancre of disbelief required healing and that my best contribution to the environmental movement might be realized in effectively refuting such sermons. The man's words stimulated my return to Bible Study and, after a decade of research, my thesis:
Bible writers make no mention of planet earth.
It is not difficult to demonstrate the cause of confusion surrounding this term (earth). Resolution of the problem does not, in my opinion, lessen the beauty or meaninfulness of the holy scripture but rather purges from it the superfluous inanity called: "End Time Prophecy." My offering of fact in this matter has been resisted by hard core believers; not unlike the resistance offered to heliocentric theory. I find it interesting that the same people who once claimed that the Bible never mentions earth as a planet, are now saying that it does. Well, they were right the first time.
I have previously argued the point in this forum and would be happy to do so again if you are inclined to participate. We may be required to open another thread for that purpose.
Welcome to the Forum.

Theology is the science of Dominion.
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doctrbill
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Message 32 of 32 (380577)
01-27-2007 11:03 PM
Reply to: Message 31 by Vacate
01-27-2007 7:29 PM


Nerdly Vengeance
Vacate writes:
I would be interested to read further discussion about your theory/idea of Earth in biblical terms -
To put it simply:
From the very first page of its very first book, the Bible defines Earth as "dry land."
That definition is never superseded by any other definition, or concept, or suggestion.
quote:
"God called the dry land Earth." - Genesis 1:10

This biblical trivia serves to undermine the Christian worldview: the worldview of choice for those who prefer the anti-natural and counter-intellectual position. Christians will want to deny this of course; much as they want to deny the reality of human instinct, the wisdom of mother nature, and the validity of all other religions. Regrettable but true.
You can get a general idea of what I teach by viewing my website. Some of this material wants revision and I am continually coming up with ideas for new inclusions. It will probably still be under construction when I die.
Among the social consequences of Christianity's iron grip on our society, is the backlash of intellectually abused children who at long last identify the source of their mental anguish and strike out at the mindless oppression of their fathers' clergy.
I am one of those children.

Theology is the science of Dominion.
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