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RickJB Member (Idle past 5010 days) Posts: 917 From: London, UK Joined: |
Zawinul writes: The reason has an awful lot to do with Africa. Indeed. Much of the basis of jazz and rock music derived from the beat-driven musical forms of Africa.
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alacrity fitzhugh Member (Idle past 4309 days) Posts: 194 Joined: |
prophex- Put your talent to the test. You want to criticize other people and their musical abilities, show us if you have any talent at all. Grab your dads digital camera, perform your own original material upload it to like youTube. Then embedded here so all of us can see if you have talent or if your just ersatz.
Edited by alacrity fitzhugh, : No reason given. Look to this day, For yesterday is already a dream. And tomorrow only a vision. But today We lived, makes every Yesterday a dream of Happiness and every tomorrow A vision of hope. Look well there to This day.
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joshua221  Inactive Member |
I don't have a digital camera.
Don't worry, I'll be on MTV.
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Asgara Member (Idle past 2323 days) Posts: 1783 From: Wisconsin, USA Joined: |
MTV... isn't that where washouts and wannabes go to do really bad reality TV?
Thought you did music.
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
It seems like the rest of the world is having a drought for music. What are you talking about?
All they have to show for is Led Zeppelin and the Beatles, and they suck. Excuse me? First of all, your taste in music is a matter of opinion. Secondly, by estimation does Zeppelin and the Beatles suck? Both of those bands were incredibly original for they day, so much so, that most progressive acts would not have existed without them. I'm not a huge Zeppelin or Beatles fan either, but they certainly don't suck. The Rolling Stones suck, IMO, particularly Charlie Watts who can't play anything other than a 4-4 beat. But nonetheless, even they were original for their time.
Everyone knows the beach boys were better than the beatles anyway I'm gonna have to seriously disagree. The Beach Boys didn't even write their own music, and what was written wasn't very good, IMO.
Where are non american good modern bands and music? Name me some genres and I'll name me you a plethora of great non-American music. "A man can no more diminish God's glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word, 'darkness' on the walls of his cell." -C.S. Lewis
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alacrity fitzhugh Member (Idle past 4309 days) Posts: 194 Joined: |
I don't have a digital camera. Have your daddy buy one for you. NMTV is for washed up losers and wannabes. Look to this day, For yesterday is already a dream. And tomorrow only a vision. But today We lived, makes every Yesterday a dream of Happiness and every tomorrow A vision of hope. Look well there to This day.
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alacrity fitzhugh Member (Idle past 4309 days) Posts: 194 Joined: |
Name me some genres and I'll name me you a plethora of great non-American music. I would like to see what you've got. So far I have been checking out groups/artist listed by others and adding the ones I like to my collection( like the tea party). List them and I'll listen to the one I do not know. Look to this day, For yesterday is already a dream. And tomorrow only a vision. But today We lived, makes every Yesterday a dream of Happiness and every tomorrow A vision of hope. Look well there to This day.
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kuresu Member (Idle past 2533 days) Posts: 2544 From: boulder, colorado Joined: |
have you listened to the clips I posted?
Furthermore, check out the album Atom Heart Mother by Pink Floyd. Secondly, you want me to believe that you've listened to every zep song there is? that would be contained in ablums I, II, III, (untitled, often called ZOSO), Houses of the Holy, Physical Graffiti, Presence, and In Through the Out Door. here is the chord progression, time signature from their song "Black Dog":4/4 (first 3 bars); 3/4; 4/4 (next 4 bars); 2/4; 4/4 (two bars); 5/4; 4/4 (4 bars); 2/4; 4/4 (2 bars); 5/4;3/4;4/4 (14 bars); 6/4 (4 bars); 2/4; 4/4 (2 bars); 7/4; 4/4 (3 bars); 3/8; 2/4; 4/4 (2 bars); 5/4; 4/4 (6 bars); 9/4; 4/4 (15 bars); 3/4; 4/4 (4 bars); 2/4; 4/4(2 bars); 6/4; 4/4 (3 bars); 3/4; 2/4; 4/4 (2 bars); 5/4; 4/4 (4 bars); 2/4; 4/4 (2 bars); 5/4; 3/4; 4/4 (14 bars); 5/4; 4/4 (4 bars); 2/4; 4/4 (2 bars); 6/4; 4/4 (3 bars); 3/4; 2/4; 4/4 (2 bars); 5/4; 4/4 (6 bars); 9/4; 4/4 (rest of the song). now then, how many times do they change time sig? 52ish times. and they've some wierd ones there--9/4, 7/4, 6/4, and 5/4. Practically none of there time sigs were used in blues at the time. Last year in marching band, the closing piece of our show (Blue Rondo) was in 5/4 for most of the time--a combo of blues/swing feel to it. this song has a very weird feel to it, time wise. i never learned it by following the tim sig. I broke it up into phrases in order to do it. even still, i come in at the right time when I hear the drum click. thank you john paul jones for this wonderful piece of confusion. now then, the chord progression:A5 (starts in the 9th bar, for 4 bars); N.C (no chord) for 4 bars; A5 (not even one full measure); N.C. for 8 bars; A5 for 3ish bars; C5 for 1.5 beats; A5 for 3ish bars; C5, same deal as before; A5 for next 4ish bars; N.C. for 3ish bars; A5 for 4ish bars; N.C. for 4 bars; A5 for 7 bars; A/G one beat; A5 for 3ish bars; G/E for one bar; D for two beats; A5; A/G; A5 for 3ish bars; G/E;D; A5. We see D7, Dsus4, and Dsus4/E during the solo--not the only chords. a good chunk of the song does not have a chord structure. And as far as chords go, this is a simple as Zeppelin gets. If you want, I can give you the chord progression for some of their more complicated songs. The band is a blues-rock band, and they break the rules of blues.Also, throw in a mandolin for acoustic sets (which hadn't been done on the rock scene yet). Then, give Page a violin bow for the live solo of Dazed and Confused. Just how many other bands then, or today, use such a tool when playing? you ask for innovative/original, and they exist. just cause you don't like them doesn't mean they aren't innovative or original. p.s. what of the classical music composers I gave a link to from the early 20th century? Want to help give back to the world community? Did you know that your computer can help? Join the newest TeamEvC Climate Modelling to help improve climate predictions for a better tomorrow.
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nator Member (Idle past 2190 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
Brian Wilson is mentally ill. He has been diagnosed with bipolar disorder and schizoaffective disorder.
Eliott Smith was mentally ill. He was addicted to drugs and alcohol and was clearly clinically depressed. Daniel Johnston is mentally ill. He has bipolar disorder with psychotic overtones, with a religious obsession.
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nator Member (Idle past 2190 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: So, what do you think these "true artists" would say about The Beatles?
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nator Member (Idle past 2190 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
One thing I am curious about, prophex...
Just what do you mean when you call The Beatles "average joes"?
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Dan Carroll Inactive Member |
The New Pornographers, The Futureheads, David Bowie, Pink Floyd, The Smiths, The Cure, Echo & The Bunnymen, Elvis Costello, Belle & Sebastian, The Clash, Queen, U2, and The Pogues, just off the top of my head.
You might not like them, of course. "I know some of you are going to say 'I did look it up, and that's not true.' That's 'cause you looked it up in a book. Next time, look it up in your gut." -Stephen Colbert
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Dan Carroll Inactive Member |
Eliott Smith was mentally ill. He was addicted to drugs and alcohol and was clearly clinically depressed. And... y'know. Died by stabbing himself in the chest. That's the kind of suicide that takes dedication. "I know some of you are going to say 'I did look it up, and that's not true.' That's 'cause you looked it up in a book. Next time, look it up in your gut." -Stephen Colbert
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
1. Sonata Arctica (Finland)
2. Blindside (Swedish) 3. Iron Maiden (England) 4. Delirious (England) 5. Coldplay (England) 6. Raccoon (Netherlands) 7. The Lost Prophets (Ireland) 8. DragonForce (England) 9. In Flames: (Sweden) 10. The Darkness (England) 11. Newsboys (Australia) 12. Sepultura (Brazil) 13. Strapping Young Lad (Canada) 14. Children of Bodom (Finland) 15. Grade (Canada) 16. Propaghandi (Canada) 17. Our Lady Peace (Canada) 18. Moist (Canada) 19. The Police (England) 20. Radiohead (England) 21. King Crimson (England) 22. Yes (England) 23. Rush (Canada) 24. Pink Floyd (England) 25. Refused (Sweden) 26. Soapbox (Sweden) 27. Kreator (Germany) 28. Rumble Militia (Germany) This was what I could come up with off of the top of my head, some underground, some mainstream. There are gobs more to completely unsubstantiate Prophex's claims. I think he is just holed up in his uncultured, small town and doesn't get out much. Edited by nemesis_juggernaut, : edit to add Edited by nemesis_juggernaut, : Edit to add Edited by nemesis_juggernaut, : More bands "A man can no more diminish God's glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word, 'darkness' on the walls of his cell." -C.S. Lewis
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RickJB Member (Idle past 5010 days) Posts: 917 From: London, UK Joined: |
NJ writes: ...Strapping Young Lad Cool band! What's a nice christian like you doing listening to music like this? Ever listened to Meshuggah? Incredibly talented band - very heavy with superb drumming..... Meshuggah | Listen and Stream Free Music, Albums, New Releases, Photos, Videos Edited by RickJB, : No reason given.
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