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Author Topic:   Lying For Jesus Award
nyenye
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Message 91 of 279 (380951)
01-29-2007 1:27 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Taz
01-18-2007 8:26 PM


uh?
...what... a Jesus award!? HAHAHA; I am sorry just sounds stupid

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anastasia
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Message 92 of 279 (380954)
01-29-2007 1:37 PM
Reply to: Message 86 by nator
01-29-2007 12:11 PM


Re: Who represents who?
nator writes:
Most people consider Catholocism to be a subset of Christianity, ana.
Most Catholics don't consider Catholicism to be a sub-sect of anything. To us, it is the epitome, the foundation, the corner-stone, the creme de la creme, the everlasting truth, The Faith, etc.
Historically speaking it is not a sub-sect either. It was proceeded by nothing.

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anastasia
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Message 93 of 279 (380955)
01-29-2007 1:42 PM
Reply to: Message 85 by nator
01-29-2007 12:04 PM


Re: Who represents who?
nator writes:
So, when 50 Christian leaders from 50 different denominations see Jerry Falwell on the television and have strong feelings against what he is saying in the name of all Christians, what is preventing them from loudly and publicly denouning him?
The same thing which prevents me from loudly and publically denouncing stupidity anywhere else. He is entitled to his, and it doesn't really rattle my cage. The Bible unfortunately has no copyrights or patents.
Oh, and feel free to judge the RCC. You already have by leaving it. Just let me know if you want to judge the priests who are abusive, the missionaries, the use of inclusive language, the belief in exclusive male priesthood, the Novus Ordo Missae, the Society of St Pius X, the absence of Latin, or my favorite...the adulteration of the Mass with the ideas of Thomas Cramner.
Edited by anastasia, : No reason given.
Edited by anastasia, : No reason given.

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Phat
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Message 94 of 279 (380956)
01-29-2007 1:42 PM
Reply to: Message 92 by anastasia
01-29-2007 1:37 PM


Re: Who represents who?
Actually the Eastern Orthodox are equally as original as the Roman Catholics. Christianity started out in five cities. The Roman one was only the most influential in terms of money and power...not in terms of anything else.

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anastasia
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Message 95 of 279 (380961)
01-29-2007 1:59 PM
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01-29-2007 1:42 PM


Re: Who represents who?
Phat writes:
Actually the Eastern Orthodox are equally as original as the Roman Catholics. Christianity started out in five cities. The Roman one was only the most influential in terms of money and power...not in terms of anything else
The Eastern Orthodox split from the church in 1052. But to be fair, I understand what you are saying.
There were different branches of Catholicsm early on and there still are. These are now called 'rites'. They are all now physically headed by Rome and the Vatican. They have no difference except in outward language and custom.

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nator
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Message 96 of 279 (381028)
01-29-2007 4:33 PM
Reply to: Message 89 by New Cat's Eye
01-29-2007 12:34 PM


Re: Who represents who?
quote:
Not being a whiny liberal who bitches about everything...
So, when Bill O'Reilly, Ann Coulter, and Rush Limbaugh bitch and complain about everything, what are they?

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nator
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Message 97 of 279 (381031)
01-29-2007 4:39 PM
Reply to: Message 92 by anastasia
01-29-2007 1:37 PM


Re: Who represents who?
quote:
Most Catholics don't consider Catholicism to be a sub-sect of anything.
So what? We are not talking about what Catholics think, we are talking about general public perception.
AbE: And I said "subset", not "subsect".
quote:
To us, it is the epitome, the foundation, the corner-stone, the creme de la creme, the everlasting truth, The Faith, etc.
Blah, blah, blah.
Whatever, protestants and Catholics are all just Christians to most people.
The whole "Christ" belief that you have in common makes you all Christians.
Edited by nator, : No reason given.

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nator
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Message 98 of 279 (381034)
01-29-2007 4:44 PM
Reply to: Message 93 by anastasia
01-29-2007 1:42 PM


Re: Who represents who?
quote:
The same thing which prevents me from loudly and publically denouncing stupidity anywhere else.
I didn't say you.
I said, "So, when 50 Christian leaders from 50 different denominations see Jerry Falwell on the television and have strong feelings against what he is saying in the name of all Christians, what is preventing them from loudly and publicly denouning him?"
Why aren't those 50 Christian leaders standing up and refusing to allow Falwell to speak for them?
If I don't hear any other Christians denouncing Falwell, ever, then what am I supposed to think?
I am left to think that other Christians don't object to what he says.

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 99 of 279 (381038)
01-29-2007 4:50 PM
Reply to: Message 96 by nator
01-29-2007 4:33 PM


Re: Who represents who?
So, when Bill O'Reilly, Ann Coulter, and Rush Limbaugh bitch and complain about everything, what are they?
Informants.

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nator
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Posts: 12961
From: Ann Arbor
Joined: 12-09-2001


Message 100 of 279 (381046)
01-29-2007 5:03 PM
Reply to: Message 99 by New Cat's Eye
01-29-2007 4:50 PM


Re: Who represents who?
Remind me again why I should waste my time with you, troll?

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riVeRraT
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Posts: 5788
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Message 101 of 279 (381051)
01-29-2007 5:12 PM
Reply to: Message 80 by Quetzal
01-29-2007 7:58 AM


Re: Speak out and speak up.
there SHOULD be 10,000 voices speaking out - each from their own particular stance.
I think for the most part catholism does not agree with main stream Christianity. Many denominations do not agree with each other. Just study how the prodestants started.
Watch the movie "Luther", gives you a good view of the battles that take place between Christians.
Probably why I belong to a non-denominational church. And that will only be good as long as it lasts.
The point of getting together is to help each other, then become a stronger force to help others outside your church. If that ain't happening, then I don't feel it's right. To follow Jesus is not easy. He even said that brothers would be fighting brothers, and so on.
I have more questions than answers, but there is a definate prejudice that goes on towards anyone that calls himself Christian. And while it may be a Christians responsibility to remove the source of where that comes from, that still doesn't make it right for a person to be prejudice against anyone. Especially from people who claim to be so against prejudice.
Matter fact, next person that joins this board, and calls me a fundie, I will have to call them prejudice. But it won't be out of hate.

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 102 of 279 (381052)
01-29-2007 5:14 PM
Reply to: Message 100 by nator
01-29-2007 5:03 PM


Re: Who represents who?
Remind me again why I should waste my time with you, troll?
Maybe some day you will realize how ridiculous some of the stuff you type is.

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riVeRraT
Member (Idle past 441 days)
Posts: 5788
From: NY USA
Joined: 05-09-2004


Message 103 of 279 (381053)
01-29-2007 5:17 PM
Reply to: Message 98 by nator
01-29-2007 4:44 PM


Re: Who represents who?
what is preventing them from loudly and publicly denouning him?"
He who is without sin shold throw the first stone.
That and maybe money, and a television network.

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jar
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Joined: 04-20-2004


Message 104 of 279 (381065)
01-29-2007 5:43 PM
Reply to: Message 103 by riVeRraT
01-29-2007 5:17 PM


He who is without sin shold throw the first stone?
Yet another just plain copout.
Come on.
The majority of the Televangelists are just plain Crooks.
A very large percentage of Christian Clergy are simply ignorant, ignorant of Science, Theology and Christianity.
We need to be speaking out and condemning EVER pastor that preaches Young Earth or ID, that opposes teaching Evolution.
We need to be speaking out against the Jack Chicks, the Gene Scotts, the Pat Robertsons, the Jerry Falwells and all the End Timers.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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anastasia
Member (Idle past 5978 days)
Posts: 1857
From: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 11-05-2006


Message 105 of 279 (381072)
01-29-2007 6:01 PM
Reply to: Message 98 by nator
01-29-2007 4:44 PM


Re: Who represents who?
nator writes:
Why aren't those 50 Christian leaders standing up and refusing to allow Falwell to speak for them?
All I can say is that it must be nice to have no atheist denominations to take the blame and the responsibility when one of you goes awry.
Oh, and no God to catch up to you when the humans fail.
Edited by anastasia, : No reason given.

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