Guess they cured cancer

So then I need to get involved in some old-fashioned 60's style demonstrations ... ???( - that stuff was nasty)

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mind staying on topic? my sig is not the topic of this thread.better yet, how about responding to the point I raised?

I have to wonder about what is genetically predisposed vs. what is caused environmentally, as in the case of smoking. In my model of enduring health stress is an important factor. Stress will bring the worst out of your genes”a principle I have come painfully to understand. In this regards I think smoking helps to reduce stress for a lot of good people. Who ever asks about the health benefits of smoking? (Because it's not politically correct?)”Hoot Mon

Sounds like it is already legally available to any physician who wishes to use it off-label.If I were a cancer patient who had failed available protocols, I'd certainly find a doctor willing to give it a whirl. I suspect we'll have lots of data real soon.

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Dan CarrollIf you want I can take a run over to the U of A across the river and see if we can get your name into the clinical trials. How 'bout you get your nasty habit up to 6 packs a day and we'll see what we can do for you eh?

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Look, I'm a ten-year-plus smoker. Can somebody who knows medicine please go ahead and tell me if this is legit or not before I start wildly pumping my fist in the air, laughing at cancer, and screaming, "USA! USA! USA!"?

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Oh, don't worry Dan.It's still possible for you to have heart disease and emphysima on your future health dockett!

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Given that someone who has died of cancer is somewhat less likely to be reproductively successful than some who is still living,

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People have usually raised their children before they die of cancer.

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In this regards I think smoking helps to reduce stress for a lot of good people.

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What brings on the stress?The withdrawl symptoms of nicotine!When people first begin to smoke, it is not a stress-reducer, but a stimulant. They get a buzz from it.

There is: Amygdalin - Wikipedia (or, at, least there is something some people are calling B17)Edited by Mr Jack, : Clarification.

You're both right. Nicotine does act on certain acetylcholine receptors, leading to the release of adrenaline (causing excitation and stimulation), but it also inhibits the breakdown of dopamine, causing relaxation and pleasure.

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"Der Mensch kann was er will; er kann aber nicht wollen was er will." (Man can do what he wills but he cannot will what he wills.) - Arthur Schopenhauer

All cancers involve a genetic component, namely one or more mutations which allow the cells to divide out of control. If you're lucky, the mutated cell will be recognised by the body as "foreign" and disposed of by the immune system. However, if the mutation isn't recognised the mutated cell will continue to thrive. The immune system can be affected by stress and environmental factors and this can lead to a reduction in it's efficiency.What causes the mutations in the first place is where environment plays a major role. Substances like tobacco smoke contain chemicals which can alter DNA i.e., cause mutations.In rare cases a persion can be said to be predisposed to cancer, for example retinoblastoma, but in these cases they are born with a mutation in one copy of the gene, so a single mutation in the "back up" copy will cause malignancy whereas those born with two functional genes would have to have both copies mutated for the malignancy to develop. In the case of breast cancer, certain alleles of the bcr gene can predispose to cancer, but again additional mutation is necessary. So, even though there may be a predisposition, the bottom line is that mutation is characteristic of tumorigenesis.For a reasonable introduction to the genetic basis of cancer have a look at this sitehttp://www.studentbmj.com/issues/05/02/education/52.phpThere are ABSOLUTELY NO health benefits to smoking with the exception of relief of nicotine withdrawal symptoms so it's a bit circular.

Smoking does not reduce stress. Nicotinamides cause autonomic arousal. The reduction in stress is because we percieve smoking as a safty behaviour.Also when we draw we take a nice deep breath and let it out. This is typical of the type of relaxation breathing techniques one would use when trying to reduce anxiety levels.The only good thing about fags I can think of is that it has a slight laxative effect.

It seems legit, but there is a simliar molecule with at least an identical effect: About the Latest Cancer Cure - LewRockwell LewRockwell.com

It does. An enzyme called MAO (mono-amine oxidase) is inhibited by smoking (although it appears that other components of tobacco smoke than nicotine are responsible). This enzyme deactivates neurotransmitters such as dopamine, so inhibiting its action will cause an increase in dopamine, which relieves stress.Additionally, stimulation of some nACR (nicotinic acetylcholine-receptors) can cause the downstream release of dopamine and endomorphines.The psychoactive effects of smoking can be divided into two phases - first there is the arousal phase, then the endorphin release. Some studies even suggest that smokers unconsciously pattern their smoking to enhance which part of the biphasic pattern they desire.

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Green Tea has been said to dramatically reduce the reproductive rates of cancer cells, but I don't have solid research at my fingertips. What I have read, however, seems to generally agree that Cancer cannot live in the presence of adequate oxygen. So circulation is one key. Another key is being able to get in to those pesky tumors and quit leaving places for damaged cells to hide and grow. Expose all the cells, I say!AbE: Oh Oh.... I also remember reading that when a person is opened up during an operation, the cancer grows quicker. Would that be due to oxygen exposure???Edited by Phat, : No reason given.