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jar
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Message 7 of 44 (381690)
02-01-2007 4:33 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by crashfrog
02-01-2007 4:29 PM


RNC?
You're a conservative who's never heard of the Republican National Committee? Chaired by Ken Mehlman? Why do I find that very hard to believe?
Why don't I find that hard to believe at all. LOL

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 28 of 44 (382175)
02-03-2007 4:46 PM
Reply to: Message 27 by crashfrog
02-03-2007 3:05 PM


Re: Conservative radio
Ignoring the fact that Nemesis is just once again trying to move folk off topic to hide the fact he cannot support his OP...
when he says:
The existence of the poor is simply a reality that will never, ever go away, no matter how hard you try.
I would like to point out that not ALL Christians believe that is true or in anyway acceptable. The ONE Episcopalian program hopes to make poverty history.
St. Paul said, "Fight the Good Fight." We were not told to fight only those fights where you are assured of victory, but rather to try to do what is RIGHT.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004


Message 31 of 44 (382213)
02-03-2007 7:47 PM
Reply to: Message 30 by Hyroglyphx
02-03-2007 7:34 PM


LOL Thank You nemesis_juggernaut.
Nothing could support the bankruptcy of your position more than your post in reply to Message 28.
Just so everyone can see it in toto, I have copied it here verbatim.
NJ's post: (attributions added for clarity)
jar writes:
Ignoring the fact that Nemesis is just once again trying to move folk off topic to hide the fact he cannot support his OP
(a quote from NJ: )
quote:
The existence of the poor is simply a reality that will never, ever go away, no matter how hard you try.
jar writes:
I would like to point out that not ALL Christians believe that is true or in anyway acceptable. The ONE Episcopalian program hopes to make poverty history.
St. Paul said, "Fight the Good Fight." We were not told to fight only those fights where you are assured of victory, but rather to try to do what is RIGHT.
(and a reply from NJ: )
"Judas Iscariot, who was later to betray him, objected, "Why wasn't this perfume sold and the money given to the poor? It was worth a year's wages. "He did not say this because he cared about the poor but because he was a thief; as keeper of the money bag, he used to help himself to what was put into it.
"Leave her alone," Jesus replied. " It was intended that she should save this perfume for the day of my burial. You will always have the poor among you, but you will not always have me."
-John 12:4-8
Amazing, yet another example of using the Bible to justify piss poor behavior.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 33 of 44 (382227)
02-03-2007 9:02 PM
Reply to: Message 32 by Hyroglyphx
02-03-2007 8:38 PM


Re: Thinking you have gold when you have dust
I'm not sure why you think you really have something on me, but by all means revel in your pile of dirt. YOU introduced the Bible into the discussion, and I'm giving you a specific verse, quoted from your Master, which says that the poor will always be with us.
So, please explain to me what kind of point you think you've made? Either the Bible is not the authority, in which case, don't ever quote from it, or it is, which validates my usage of it.
You seem to cherry pick whenever it suits your agenda. Either believe in it or don't. You don't get to have your cake and eat it too.
So because the Bible says we will always have the poor with us we should accept that as fact?
Get serious.
Many Christians simply do not accept that as even a possible outcome. We may not succeed but BY GOD we are going to try to make poverty history.
Once again, the link I provided above to ONE Episcopalian campaign to make poverty history.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
Member (Idle past 420 days)
Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004


Message 41 of 44 (382308)
02-04-2007 9:00 AM
Reply to: Message 38 by Hyroglyphx
02-04-2007 3:06 AM


Re: Thinking you have gold when you have dust
Because you sourced the Bible as an appeal to my better judgment, I'm showing you that God Himself stated that we will always have the poor among us. Either remain consistent in your assessment that the Bible is just a guide, and thereby, shouldn't use it to try and defend your mole hill. And if you do try to use it as leverage, then don't casually dismiss another piece of Scripture that brings your entire position into disrepute.
Why not?
Why use the Bible to support your baser position?
I think that we're not here to save the world. I think we're here to make the life of one person better. It seems that those who try to save the entire world end up messing it up even worse than it was compared to the person who makes a little difference along the way. To think there is any humanistic system that is going to eradicate poverty is in for some heartache. Its about the person who volunteers at a soup kitchen, who by their small contribution, ends up makes a big difference in the lives they touched.
Which simply shows you do not even bother reading material provided. The link I provided was to ONE Episcopalian. Somehow you must have missed the big, capitalized ONE.
And just how do you think the world gets saved if it is not one individual at a time?

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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