Is Science a Religion?

That is precisely why you know that there is a God.And that is why you are so offended by my reminding you that you have fallen far. Because it is so obvious that homosexuality is wrong. It is so base and fudamental, that it seems unfair for me to pull out that rabbit, at the expense of the sophisticated sophistry that others have fed you on the matter. And you have adopted their spells as your own. Our ideas are not our own. We can create nothing! We can only reflect what is, through our exceptionally individual and unique lenses.The knowledge of God is the most obvous thing in life.Romans 1:19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.

Pssssssst.....that was me.

So you believe nothing... except that you actually believe nothing!That's what you've figured out?

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I didn't say that. Are you ever going to learn to read what I write?I said that belief and verifiable knowledge are two different things.
What we can't verify, we can only believe.Science is about what we can verify. Religion is about what we an not verify. Simple.

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Except that I know the opposite. It's obvious that "God" is a myth - it has all the hallmarks of the kind of bullshit people make up to make themselves feel better. Topographically (if you will) it's the same as the Tooth Fairy and everything else that isn't true.I mean that's staggeringly obvious. If God exists, why is everything that is supposedly "known" about God mythical? Try to imagine that you're talking to someone who believes that the exact opposite is true - not only true, obvious to the most causal observer. Actually don't pretend - you are. Clearly homosexuality is neither right nor wrong. But what does that have to do with me? That is false; the exact opposite is true.

I may as well ask you; why is your belief that God does not exit found in absolutely no mythology? Why is disbelief not worthy of its own story?

But you can't verify that, so you only believe it?I can verify that God exists. And you can too. I just cannot verify it for you. You have to open the door.Science is not the only way to verify things. It is the only way to verify things publicly (in full view of all). But science is itself only a tentative verification. Any given fact may be valid, but how it fits into the larger picture and what it meansis open for revision.Ringo:And you believe this?You cannot verify it, because it is metaphysically stated. What is verifiable Ringo? At what level is it verifiable? From a very narrow view of reality perhap? Anything that is not immediately useful to Ringo doesn't exist?I believe I know what a grain of sand is... But I cannot verify it because I do not know what it really is, until I fully understand it's place in the creation (why is it there, how it got there to begin with, and where is it going). I also must understand what it's makeup really is. Silica for sure, but what is silica? What are the subataomic particles made of? And if they are eventually non-material at the foundational level, then how do we verify that level of reality?How do we verify the non-material? Not with science. Why do you use a narrow and closed system to interpret the data?Can't you open your mind?

The knowledge of God is the most obvious thing in life.Crash:But God is truth Crash... How can truth be false? And if God does not exist, then truth does not exist because chaos is Lord.It can only be the other way around. Unless you abandon logic entirely... Edited by AdminPD, : Warning

That's where you always confuse yourself. You're thinking of "verification" in absolute terms.Science thinks of verification in empirical terms. If I obtain a certain result and a Muslim in Pakistan obtains the same result and a Buddhist in Taiwan obtains the same result and a Catholic in Spain obtains the same result and an atheist in Scotland obtains the same result... that is verification. Differing worldviews have not effected the result. Nobody's silly notions of "Absolute Truth" have effected the result. Not empirically. Your own religion says that. Then it isn't verification. It's confirmation bias. And that is why science is not a religion. A physical, empirical view of reality, yes. Can't you get it thorough your head that this is not a competition between science and religion?Every time you claim that religion is "better" than science (at anything), you are affirming that science is not a religion.Edited by Ringo, : Spellinge.

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No, God is false. Truth is truth. Clearly you have, if your posts are any indication. What's your training, logic-wise? Edited by AdminPD, : No reason given.

with only looking at the statement that"innocent killing is wrong. but you can kill in self-defense", there is no contradiction. you know that rob.if there is a need to kill someone in self-defense, than that person is not innocent--he's busy trying to do something to you that justifies you killing him.think before you post again. look at the statement. it doesn't matter if we think the person who just got killed is innocent. it doesn't matter if the person just killed is not innocent. It doesn't matter what any terrorist groups are doing. The only thing important here is that statement, in and of itself. there is no contradiction.again, think before you post. i wasn't concerned with who said it. just the statement. you missed that. Edited by AdminPD, : Warning

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Whatever you have decided is true, simply use God in its place. Whatever you are not sure about, believe. If your beliefs must change, so what? Your idea of truth must change, but somewhere out there the real answer exists.

Well, it's true that the square of the hypotenuse is equal to the sum of the squares of the two bases, but is that God?What you suggest seems semantically useless, at best. And what use is praying to the Pythagorean theorem?* Anyway, I try not to decide what is true, but to learn what is true.(*Sorry, I meant "hypotenuse-square theorem", as according to the most recent racism thread.)

Sure, why not? It is not anti-God, it is not false. It is eternal and inalterable. It is part of truth. Find all of truth, and you have God. While knowing that we can never have knowledge of all that is true, is it wrong to suppose that truth could not be found?Praying to the Pythagorean Theorem is no more useful than praying to the Catholic church. The theorem represents but one part of truth, as does a religion. Edited by anastasia, : No reason given.