Abiogenesis

Oh sacred cow of evolution. I am sorry for disrespecting you. Please forgive me.
You are absolute oh Gog. Your priests will endure forever. Their great faith and extrapolating imaginations are higher than mine. Who am I to question the smartest people on earth?It's just a's and g's, c's, and t's. It's not complicated. abiogenesis is the mother of life. Queen of the universe. An accident waiting to happen that did.All there is is matter...Oh great material force. Give me my way. lead me into the understanding that understanding is just a random variation within my kind. What's true for you is lie to me (except evolution... no compromise there) my apologies again.Just give me the apple and let me be. I want to suck the pandas thumb. I do know Kuresu... And I understand. How complex of a creature do you need before a self replicating cycle is established?And I do not mean what scientists can imagine (faith/ extrapolate)... I mean show me the simplest living cell available in the fossil record or that is currently alive. I want verification and evidence. That's what they keep telling me science is. Then explain to me how it arose by the process of abiogenesis.No imagination necessary. Evolution makes sense because we imagine that life started out simple. Turns out not to be the case.Genetic information cannot be reproduced without cell structures (oganelles). And it has to be produced in the first place before it can be reproduced. And the specifics of the genetic information just so happen to have all of the instructions for the building of those organelles.Have I offended you and your elitist brethren? The smartest people on earth? Perhaps a man of higher learning is more credible to you than a stupid truck driver?Phillip Johnson - author ”Darwin on trial’ / Professor of law (emeritus) University of California at Berkeley-“With Darwinian evolution, we’re dealing with something that is much more than a scientific theory; it’s a creation story. In fact, it’s the creation myth of our culture. Every culture has a creation myth, which tells the people where they came from, what is ultimately ”real’, and how they relate to that, and where they should get their knowledge- their information from.Every culture has a priesthood that has custody of this creation story and that gives that knowledge. In our culture, the priesthood is not the clergy or the ministers in church, it’s the intellectual class, and especially the scientists."You can still believe in evolution and abiogenesis. Just use your imagination Kuresu!Jeremiah 7:24 But they hearkened not, nor inclined their ear, but walked in the counsels and in the imagination of their evil heart, and went backward, and not forward.

Genetic information cannot be reproduced without cell structures (oganelles

1936 Aleksandr Ivanovich Oparin, in his "The Origin of Life on Earth", demonstrated that organic molecules could be created in an oxygen-less atmosphere, through the action of sunlight. These molecules, he suggested, combine in ever-more complex fashion until they are dissolved into a coacervate droplet. These droplets could then fuse with other droplets and break apart into two replicas of the original. This could be viewed as a primitive form of reproduction and metabolism

The A Priori assumption is that it happened and can be explaned in purely material terms.

It is better known as an A Priori assumption that since life is now here, we know abiogenesis happened.

we know life started whole and fully formed, we just don't know how

DNA is useless to life unless combined with all of a cell's machinery.

There is certainly no material explanation

kuresu writes:DNA does not need all of the organelles in a cell for replication. it barely needs a thing.

the other components in the cell are needed to replicate it.

DNA is useless to life unless combined with all of a cell's machinery.

I don't need evidence. I know it happended because it is here.[on how abiogenesis happened]

It was God putting life into being by whatever means He does such things.