King David found guilty on all counts.

If I allowed someone to crash off a draw bridge, when I could have saved them, doesn't that make me partly responsible?Plus, do you call flooding the earth and destroying everything good?I'm not going to go dig up every instance of God appearing to what most would consider bad (i.e. letting his own son get slain), but it is safe to say after reading the bible, God's idea of good, and ours are very different. To hell with the whole Jesus thing then.
He wasn't the son either. So basically the bible is useless, as is this conversation. What if you read it filled with Holy Spirit? If I told myself that, then I would not be able to accept much of the bible then. I would find no power in the words within. They would just be all BS stories, and then maybe I would have to call myself Brian or something. (don't get upset Brian, it's a joke).
But still the possibility remains for me, but only because of Jesus. I know Jesus didn't come to change the law and only fulfill it (whatever that means to you) but to me, I can see how fed up Jesus was with peoples ways. It's almost as if He didn't want to tell them how screwd up they really were, because if He did, then they would have killed Him much sooner, and His work would not have been done. But thats only one theory. Logic tells me that God created everything. I find life not that easy, generally speaking, even though I am very blessed, and way more difficult for many people in the world. How can such a good God create such a horrible place (at times) to live in? Surely I do not understand His goodness then. You don't understand ringo, I constantly search to understand God's goodness. Much of it was explained to me through the Holy Spirit, and mear words cannot express it to you. I would just reiterating what the whole New Testament tries to teach you. But I have come to a place in faith walk, that I can start to see things that we perceive as bad, being good things from God. But I still have much to learn. David clearly had a heart for God, even though he screwd up.Even God's closest angel screwd up. I guess so. But many in here will not agree with that.There is two other ways of looking it. God is not responsible for anything we do, and we should always just be gracious to be living.Or God is responsible for everything since it all came from Him. I don't see it that way.David deserves all the blame,
And God did something that I don't quite understand, but I can see how what took place became a lesson for millions after. There is always some good that comes out of the bad.

God may "hate the actions of fags" but I highly doubt that God hates fags. Just like God hates when I sin.There are many false profits, and many who claim to be like Christ, and say they come in His name. You seem to have good discernment, why would you even try to claim that these churches are led by the Holy Spiti?
It's not even logical to assume that everyone in the church has the Holy Spirit. I have not seen that happen yet in my church. Sure they would, thats why I was explaining to you that you cannot prove anything, and I warned you that it would be subjective at best, yet you still chose to mock me.I believe the Holy Spirit is at work in you, and it is part of why you do not believe.

It's all the work of God. There are many amazing stories that people will attribute to God, and if I started telling them to you, you might not even believe they happened at all.
If God exists, then I believe these men who wrote these stories were inspired by God, otherwise, we might as well be sacrificing virgins to mountwannahockalugii. No, if Jesus wasn't God's Son, Then he was a liar and not a good moral character. I would have no reason to believe Him at all. Doesn't mean I would automatically disagree with what He said. So it's the word of God or not? How so? Being filled with the Spirit does not make me God, or make me instantly understand EVERYTHING He is, by a long shot. I expressed that already to iceage.You could have 1000 people in a room that all love their mom, do you think they all love their mom in the same exact way? Because each one loves their mom differently, does that mean they don't really love their mom?A better example. Me and you could be sitting in a room, and the President walks in, gives a speech, and then leaves. We would both probably remember different things about him, and most likely even disagree on a few points about him.So the fact the people who feel the Holy Spirit, interpret it differently is irrelevent to the Holy Spirits existance. That's highly debatable

I have never heard that one. Most people who want to use religion to excuse themselves for their behavior will point to the bible, and what happened to homosexuality in the bible. Also, what you say, and what actually happens are two different things. Since we can't really test the Holy Spirit, there is no way of knowing.What we teach in our church, is that if you believe the Holy Spirit has told you something, to tell someone else, you can only tell that person, if it is encouraging. And to also use the words "what I believe". I know the Hopy Spirit is talking to me, when I get a message, and relay it to the person, and they confirm it.Many times, I have preachers try to tell me crap, and then push me over with their words, but I feel nothing, so I ain't going over. They can kiss my ass, and I would tell everyone of what happened.But I have had people tell me things, that they could not have known about me, and I know the Spirit told them.My point is, the whole confirmation thing.Before I knew the Spirit, or felt the Holy Spirit, I did not understand much of what was written in the bible, and instantly afterwards, it became a 1000 times clearer. That confirms what I felt, that is how I know it is the Spirit.But don't make me tell you again, that it doesn't make me perfect. It is only the start of a life long journey of seeking and learning from God.There is a big difference from what I think is right, and what God thinks is right. I don't know if you've ever felt the Spirit, but maybe if you did, you would think differently. My wish is for you to feel what I feel, just for a millasecond.Just don't discount something because it has the Holy Spirit label on it, if you know in your heart that it is true.

Well, that is something I just cant understand at this point in time. I dont know after feeling what I felt, and continue to feel, that if I will ever "move on".I will always want to do for God, as best as I know how.

I knew you would sa0y that.
Funny, I dont feel like a literalist. I dont take things word for word.Any way it was a good discussion, one I wont forget.