Where is the Good Non American Music???

if you can't stand zeppelin or clapton, you probably shouldn't listen the Yardbirds.if you want good, non-blues music, try looking in other genres.oh, and half of the Hendrix Experience was british. Page (not paige) is somewhat similar to hendrix.another good british band is Robin Trower (again, blues).Try Pink Floyd.Deep purpleMoody BluesDire StraitsCat StevensThe WhoYesCream (eric clapton is in it)foreign bands outnumber american bands in my music folder.just because you can't find any decent blues bands that are non-american doesn't mean there isn't good music outside of america.

Robin Trower is not simply a Hendrix clone. that fact that you think this makes me doubt your judgement capabilities w/ music.You have never heard Dark Side of the Moon? Wish You Were Here? Animals? The Wall?Try Deep Purple, mk II. Ian Gilliam the singer, Ritchie Blackmore the guitarist, one hell of a pianist (forgot name), and the bassist ain't bad. Look up the song April by them.Cat Stevens grew up in England w/o a doubt.You need to listen to the older who--the group from the 60s. right now, thier missing half the group--Entwistle and Moon due to their deaths. Moon's death did to the WHo what Bonham's death did to Zeppelin--ended it. the Who just didn't stop. For their time, they are quite original.As to yes, you've never listened to their album Fragile. The entire band is quite talented. Roundabout is incredible. Heart of the Sunrise is really good, too, if 14 minutes long.As to Zep, listen to some of their live stuff. You have four incredibly talented people--their bassist ranks as among the best (not to mention the stuff he could do on the piano. Listen to the song No Quarter, preferably the live version. Bonham the drummer is insane. If you don't like Plant's singing, too bad. He and Page were practically as one--a live version of Dazed and Confused will let you see what Plant did live--there aren't too many singers today who do that. And if you don't like Yes because of their "finger focus", Page doesn't have that. Try looking at the chords in the songs--very few are what you termed "blues power chords". there isn't even such a thing--a power chord is 1,5,8 (optional) of a scale.
Furthermore, every song does not even start in the same manner--and the only two that are remarkably similar are their most trad. blues pieced--Since I've Been Loving You and Tea for One.oh, and we've proved you wrong. Your acceptance of Floyd and Stevens makes your claim moot.

uh, dude. in your OP you claimed that the Beatles suck. Now they rock?broaden your tastes, man.

finally you make a reply.still don't have any Al Di Meola besides one song. didn't get any for christmas

April by Deep Purple:
Page Not Found - Webs (should work--not positive on that though)(now tell me, what the hell is a proto-metal band doing playing this?Roundabout by Yes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdS82JR0FEA
the problem with youtube? you can never find a satisfactory clip.Mood for a Day by Yes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y71XZJU9GUNo Quarter by Zeppelin:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNUSjHREAaw (part one)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiVSH5aKgKY (part two)Battle of Evermore by Zeppelin:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l0u-yPJLrM(now then, what kind of freak bassist plays a three neck guitar?)(and jimmy page should not play mandolin--leave that to those who can, like the bassist in that band)Welcome to the Machine by Pink Floyd:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1eCYPAOBlE (you wanted original, innovative. Floyd pretty much tops the list)Shine on You Crazy Diamond:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPefphuSY-k (part one)
sadly, not even all of part one's here. its from "Wish You Were Here"
total song length put together is about 25 minutes.

really? Okay. You asked for it.Answers - The Most Trusted Place for Answering Life's Questionscheck up on these guys. You will find that most of them are not american. only 3.5 of them are americans--and 1.5 of that is three guys. it's only once you hit the jazz section that you really begin to find americans.really prophex, you should be careful what you ask for.

have you listened to the clips I posted?
Furthermore, check out the album Atom Heart Mother by Pink Floyd.Secondly, you want me to believe that you've listened to every zep song there is? that would be contained in ablums I, II, III, (untitled, often called ZOSO), Houses of the Holy, Physical Graffiti, Presence, and In Through the Out Door.here is the chord progression, time signature from their song "Black Dog":
4/4 (first 3 bars); 3/4; 4/4 (next 4 bars); 2/4; 4/4 (two bars); 5/4; 4/4 (4 bars); 2/4; 4/4 (2 bars); 5/4;3/4;4/4 (14 bars); 6/4 (4 bars); 2/4; 4/4 (2 bars); 7/4; 4/4 (3 bars); 3/8; 2/4; 4/4 (2 bars); 5/4; 4/4 (6 bars); 9/4; 4/4 (15 bars); 3/4; 4/4 (4 bars); 2/4; 4/4(2 bars); 6/4; 4/4 (3 bars); 3/4; 2/4; 4/4 (2 bars); 5/4; 4/4 (4 bars); 2/4; 4/4 (2 bars); 5/4; 3/4; 4/4 (14 bars); 5/4; 4/4 (4 bars); 2/4; 4/4 (2 bars); 6/4; 4/4 (3 bars); 3/4; 2/4; 4/4 (2 bars); 5/4; 4/4 (6 bars); 9/4; 4/4 (rest of the song).now then, how many times do they change time sig? 52ish times. and they've some wierd ones there--9/4, 7/4, 6/4, and 5/4. Practically none of there time sigs were used in blues at the time. Last year in marching band, the closing piece of our show (Blue Rondo) was in 5/4 for most of the time--a combo of blues/swing feel to it.this song has a very weird feel to it, time wise. i never learned it by following the tim sig. I broke it up into phrases in order to do it. even still, i come in at the right time when I hear the drum click. thank you john paul jones for this wonderful piece of confusion.now then, the chord progression:
A5 (starts in the 9th bar, for 4 bars); N.C (no chord) for 4 bars; A5 (not even one full measure); N.C. for 8 bars; A5 for 3ish bars; C5 for 1.5 beats; A5 for 3ish bars; C5, same deal as before; A5 for next 4ish bars; N.C. for 3ish bars; A5 for 4ish bars; N.C. for 4 bars; A5 for 7 bars; A/G one beat; A5 for 3ish bars; G/E for one bar; D for two beats; A5; A/G; A5 for 3ish bars; G/E;D; A5. We see D7, Dsus4, and Dsus4/E during the solo--not the only chords.a good chunk of the song does not have a chord structure. And as far as chords go, this is a simple as Zeppelin gets. If you want, I can give you the chord progression for some of their more complicated songs.The band is a blues-rock band, and they break the rules of blues.
Also, throw in a mandolin for acoustic sets (which hadn't been done on the rock scene yet). Then, give Page a violin bow for the live solo of Dazed and Confused. Just how many other bands then, or today, use such a tool when playing?you ask for innovative/original, and they exist. just cause you don't like them doesn't mean they aren't innovative or original.p.s. what of the classical music composers I gave a link to from the early 20th century?

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dude, I didn't give a link with any Rush.what really draws me to zep is the bass. before zep, just how many bands had a bassist that could "rip it up"? besides, the band has a great sound. you condemnd them for being fake blues. that's a good thing, cause they weren't even trying to be a pure blues band. one good listen to their third album will tell you they are anything but pure blues.I find it funny that you ask for ogirginators and innovators, and then call all the ones we bring out as crap--when quality wasn't exactly what you were looking for.(oh, and these guys you dismiss tend to write decent music. my personal bet is that you don't like those that can play faster than you (Al di Meola, being one), and thus, prefer the less technically advanced music)And I prefer my musicians to just be drug-addled, not mentally unstable and suicidal.

so what you're actually asking us is to give you a non-american band that has an agenda.Did Beethoven have an agenda?
Did Raphael have an agenda?
Did Mozart have an agenda?
Did Leonarda da Vinci have an agenda?
Did Sousa have an agenda?
Do you have an agenda?
Art requires no agenda. Masterpieces don't require agendas.

and just who exactly was the creative force behind the Beatles?Lennon and McCartney.seriously, prophex, you need help. music isn't about being tortured. music is about fun. music is about enjoying yourself. sometimes, it's about spreading a message.which is better? The Who, a band whose message was politically driven, or Led Zeppelin, whose message was fun?I'll take zeppelin anyday over the who. i get enough political discourse in the rest of my day, I don't need it in my music.relax, enjoy life a little bit. as they say, "let your hair hang down".

first off, its neanderthalensis.you don't get us. that's why you don't understand our reaction to what you wrote.Life isn't just about examining life. It's not all about philosophy, contemplation. Plato is ancient. Barely relavent today. But I bet even he knew that you should have fun in life.That's just part of who we are. I think quite a bit. But I know how to have fun. do you not "let your hair hang down"?And I wouldn't consider someone who stabbed himself in the chest and was psychotic to have lived an amazing life.

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mind reading what I actually wrote?I said life is not just about contemplation--you have to let your hair hang down at least everyonce in a while.I also said Plato is near irrelavant. And he is ancient.get it straight.

it's off topic, but for what its worth:I've read a chunk of The Republic. I'm very familiar with the Cave analogy. Also, his dual world is well known.About the only thing left he has that's relevant is the Cave analogy. In the Republic, he argues for what is essentially a monarchy--he doesn't trust democracies. His dualistic world is also irrelevant. There are other dualisms, more modern (such as Descarte's body and soul). Even aristotle rejected Plato's dualism. The other view, for lack of a better word, is monism. Science is not dualistic, especially when it comes to plato's dualism--how do you test that which does not exist in this world?The only things that are dualistic are religions with a heaven idea, really.Besides, half of what Plato wrote (if not more) was taken from Socrates.

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if he doesn't get it, next try stream of concsiousness.I always liked Farewell to Arms.but then, I have a tendency to like books the rest of my lit. class hated (or disliked).

off topic, yeah, but prophex has made the comment that the beatles and shakespeare were just average joes.i'm just wondering if he's familiar with this famous soliloquoy: not a great artist, eh?