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Chiroptera
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Message 1 of 8 (365790)
11-24-2006 3:27 PM


On a lighter note: according to Wikipedia's front page, today is the 147th anniversary of the first publishing of Darwin's The Origin of Species. One trivium that I didn't know is that the book sold out the very first day; the booksellers oversubscribed to the first printing.
Although someone has already disagreed with me on this point, I fully agree with the following:
Even for the non-specialist the book is quite readable....
It can be slow going at times, being a very minutely detailed list of the evidence of Darwin's theories, but I managed it when I was still in high school.
For those who don't want to spring for a paper edition (shame on you!), it is available on-line.

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Message 2 of 8 (383280)
02-07-2007 4:33 PM
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11-24-2006 3:27 PM


On a lighter note: according to Wikipedia's front page, today is the 147th anniversary of the first publishing of Darwin's The Origin of Species. One trivium that I didn't know is that the book sold out the very first day; the booksellers oversubscribed to the first printing.
And most people do not know that it took Darwin 13 months and 10 days to write the atheist bible known as the Origin of Species.
The best place to access the complete works of Darwin is here:
Darwin Online
http://darwin-online.org.uk/content/frameset?itemID=F373&...
Ray

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Message 3 of 8 (383295)
02-07-2007 5:03 PM
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02-07-2007 4:33 PM


atheist bible
somehow i doubt you've read the book, ray. the implication of your phrase here, a philosophical moratroium on deity, it certainly is not. if you had called the god delusion that, i might be inclined to agree, except for the fact that it is not accepted widely enough to compare to the bible.
Edited by arachnophilia, : broken tag


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02-07-2007 5:09 PM
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02-07-2007 5:03 PM


somehow i doubt you've read the book, ray. the implication of your phrase here, a philosophical moratroium on deity, it certainly is not. if you had called the god delusion that, i might be inclined to agree, except for the fact that it is not accepted widely enough to compare to the bible.
All atheists rabidly support natural selection, Darwinism and ToE.
Dawkins (1986): "Darwin made it possible to be an intellectually fulfilled atheist."
Ray

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arachnophilia
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Message 5 of 8 (383301)
02-07-2007 5:16 PM
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02-07-2007 5:09 PM


All atheists rabidly support natural selection, Darwinism and ToE.
cart before the horse. it's rather hard to believe in supernatural creationism if you don't believe in the supernatural. that said, THERE are atheists who do not follow darwin. think raeliens.
Dawkins (1986): "Darwin made it possible to be an intellectually fulfilled atheist."
like i said, you're thinking of dawkins. darwin did not make a philosophical argument -- dawkins did, and based it on darwin. there's a difference between citing a source in an argument, and the source itself.


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truthlover
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Message 6 of 8 (383321)
02-07-2007 5:54 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Chiroptera
11-24-2006 3:27 PM


Although someone has already disagreed with me on this point, I fully agree with the following:
Even for the non-specialist the book is quite readable....
Eliminate the word "quite" and I will agree with it.
I thought the reasoning was brilliant, yet easily understood. I was inspired to awe by his wide range of knowledge on flora & fauna.
It was difficult for me to read, but very, very pleasant and satisfying. No anti-evolutionist should be allowed to argue against evolution without reading it, because it does a better job than any current author (uh, that I know of, of course) of showing the reasoning that led to discovering evolution.

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Message 7 of 8 (383350)
02-07-2007 7:00 PM
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02-07-2007 5:09 PM


Ray writes:
All atheists rabidly support natural selection, Darwinism and ToE.
Yes, i suppose atheist's tend to embrace rational explanations and reject superstitious bronze age explanation for how the world works.

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Message 8 of 8 (383365)
02-07-2007 7:41 PM
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02-07-2007 7:00 PM


Ray writes:
All atheists rabidly support natural selection, Darwinism and ToE.
Maybe JAD should talk to him.

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