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jar Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
A review of NASA satellite photos revealed that the Bosporous straight and the entire Anatolian region, which lies at a major collision point of several tectonic plates, allowed the Mediterranean to burst through the Bosporous dyke and began to flood an extremely large region-- namely, the Mesopotamian valley. Uhmmmm. Nonsense. I really doubt that the book says than and if it does, then the author is an idiot. The dyke, if it existed (and there is much evidence that it did) would have simply flooded the Black Sea. It is in no way related to the Mesopotamian valley. In addition there is no way flooding the Black Sea would be able to move some Ark up into mountains that are considerable distance away and far above the sea level in the Black Sea. Have you actually read the Book? Does the author actually make such stupid claims? Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
2. There is a lot of evidence that there was mass migration of pre-semetic people FROM the Black Sea area to mesopotamia at the same time as the flood. You can't be flooding an area at the same time you are setting up shop to build a new civilization. No, but the folk could bring tales of the flood along with them. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
My statements were a forthright fair and balanced across the board/isle opinion that both Biblicalist creos and secular scientists were deeply entrenched into their own science regarding the discoveries of Wyatt, the nobody freelance researcher and expeditionist. Wyatt made no discoveries, he only falsified evidence to fool the gullible. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
There have been research done and evidence produced. If that is true why have you NEVER been able to produce even links to any of it?
We also have research and evidence with the chariot wheels at Aqaba along with the corroborating evidence in the region supportive to the Biblical historical account that this is the region to which the Biblical account applies. If that is true why have you NEVER been able to produce even links to any of it?
By definition miracle implies illimination of some natural factors for the event to happen: For example, guidance of animals into the ark. If that is true why have you NEVER been able to produce even links to any of it?
I don't believe the heat problem has been soundly refuted since the properties and arragement of the atmosphere in such a canopy preflood model would be unknown. If that is true why have you NEVER been able to produce even links to any of it? Buz, here is your big opportunity. Simply produce links to ANY evidence that supports ANY of your assertions. If they are true that is. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
I don't believe the heat problem has been soundly refuted since the properties and arragement of the atmosphere in such a canopy preflood model would be unknown. That, of course, is simply nonsense. Do you remember the Oetzi thread? Now Oetzi lived before the Great Wetting that Never Happened. In fact Oetzi was contemporary with Adam. And along with Oetzi, we gained a wealth of information about the land and climate during the time before the Great Wetting that Never Happened. We found samples of meat, of seeds, pollens, wood, deer and bear hides, grasses and a whole host of other materials and items from microscopic to as large as his clothes, from genetic to technological. And guess what? The seeds and pollen and deer hide and bear skin and woods and grasses and even Oetzi himself, the size of his lungs, the size of his bones, the composition of his teeth tell us that the atmosphere before the Great Wetting that Never Happened was just about like the atmosphere after the Great Wetting that Never Happened. Sorry Buz. Anyone who claims there was a world-wide flood is either a liar, willfully ignorant or delusional. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Please read Message 72
I see nothing empirical there Jar: too many assumptions. Until your argument becomes soundly imperical, we have a viable debate. Bull Buz. You can only make such an assertion by being a liar, willfully ignorant or delusional. Oetzi is empirical evidence. There are NO assumptions there. To say that is simply a falsehood. Oetzi is empirical evidence. The minerals in his teeth could be used to identify where he grew up. The food he ate is empirical evidence. It was so close to modern samples that every bit of it could be identified. The pollen found in his clothing, in his gut, in his belongings is empirical evidence. It was so close to modern samples that every bit of it could be identified. The shoes he wore are empirical evidence. It was so close to modern samples that every bit of it could be identified. The grasses that he lined his shoes with was so close to modern samples that every bit of it could be identified. The wounds he received are empirical evidence. There were no indications of any different atmosphere that would have changed how his blood coagulated. The very bones in his body, size of his lungs, clothing he wore, food he ate, materials he used, all testify to a world, and environment that was very, very similar to today's. There are no assertions or assumptions in that evidence Buz. There is no debate. The Flood as described in the Bible simply never happened. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Nor has it been empirically proven that those millions of sea life fossils in the high Rockies et al did not get there via Genesis flood tectonics. Not true Buz, simply another false statement from you. The fact is that sea shells are found IN, not ON, mountain tops. The shells are within the matrix. They could not have been washed into the very rock itself by any flood. Anyone who promotes a World-wide flood is either lying, willfully ignorant or delusional. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
I suggest interested folks go to your link and read Faith's responses. (I miss the dear woman.) I think she did quite a sufficient job regardless of the responses to her which were, again, not empirical refutes. LOL You are free to believe anything Buz but her responses were simply denial of the Facts. LOL The FACT is Buz, the world-wide flood as described in the Bible never happened. Anyone who asserts that it did is simply lying, willfully ignorant or delusional. A Pre-Flood Atmospheric Canopy is simply nonsense. Anyone who believes in such nonsense is simply a liar, willfully ignorant or delusional. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
I, Dr Baumgardner and others have for a long time argued that if there were a different pre-Biblical flood atmosphere carbon and nitrogen properties in the atmosphere and in all preflood fossils et al would not be the same as post flood rendering Carbon dating inaccurate. How many times do you people need to be reminded of this? We have acknowledged you believe that bullshit, but it is simply FALSE, wrong, inaccurate, crap. There is NO evidence there was a Flood, and so NO such thing as a pre-flood atmosphere. We also KNOW as a fact that the atmosphere for the last 10,000 years or so has been basically the same as it is today. As pointed out to you in this very thread, the pollens found with Oetzi show that the atmosphere was the same as it is today. What is it called when someone keeps repeating something that has been shown to be false? Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Anyhow I argue that the matrix containing the sealife fossils up high is flood matrix raised up via flood tectonics. You may argue that, but it is false, as false as 2 + 2 = 5. The various shell and marine live deposits found on mountain tops ranges from fresh water species to salt water species interlaced with layers that were not under water. In addition there are layers of limestone and coral often thousands of feet thick.
I liked to go rock hunting on the ranch in the surrounding sagebrush land where I found numerous little fossils around an inch to two inches or so long laying on the top of the dirt without any sign of ever being embeded in matrix. Yet another example of willful ignorance. What you found were examples that had been eroded OUT of the underlying material. In addition, all that area was once part of a great inland sea. Sorry Buz but Noah's Flood is a lie and anyone who continues to assert it ever happened is either a liar, willfully ignorant or delusional. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
LOL! The way some of you people debate one would never ever think you believed that to be the case. Well we can have a very high degree of confidence in those things that we know to be false. For example, Noah's Flood. Never happened. Anyone who claims it did is simply repeating a falsehood. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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