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Lithodid-Man
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Message 1 of 4 (384124)
02-10-2007 6:55 AM


I recently saw the video "Jesus Camp", a documentary about a youth camp in North Dakota run by Becky Fischer that serves evangelical children. The video profiles several of the kids before and during the camp. As a heartless atheist, I found some portions to hard to watch. Children brought to tears by medically incorrect descriptions of abortion and the like. The whole thing reeked of child abuse IMO.
But that aside. Some of the kids in this movie scared the hell out of me. They are like ten year olds but are talking about holy wars and sin. Unintended comic relief comes from a visit from pastor Ted Haggard where he discusses the evils of homosexuality (this was pre-outing).
I would like to discuss this video with people of varying opinions but only those who have seen it. No peanut gallery "we got what we needed from IMDB" (Internet Movie Data Base). Also I want to stay away from the documetary makers only focussing on the bad parts. The people say enough for a lively and intelligent discussion here. Maybe they were hopelessly biassed, but lets focus on what they did say.
No idea where this would fit. I am hoping someone smarter than myself will find a place.
Edited by Lithodid-Man, : Wrote out what IMDB stood for as per PD's request

Doctor Bashir: "Of all the stories you told me, which were true and which weren't?"
Elim Garak: "My dear Doctor, they're all true"
Doctor Bashir: "Even the lies?"
Elim Garak: "Especially the lies"

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Message 2 of 4 (384129)
02-10-2007 7:10 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Lithodid-Man
02-10-2007 6:55 AM


Could you provide what IMDB stands for?

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Lithodid-Man
Member (Idle past 2951 days)
Posts: 504
From: Juneau, Alaska, USA
Joined: 03-22-2004


Message 3 of 4 (384299)
02-10-2007 8:34 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by AdminPD
02-10-2007 7:10 AM


Changes made...
I edited the OP to include Internet Movie Database.
In terms of focus (if this helps placement) I would like to examine where on the spectrum the group in the movie lie. It seems to me that they are a fringe group relative to even conservative Christianity. But in my own fleeting experience with parents who homeschool I saw a good number of people who reminded me of the parents in this movie.
Great potential topics would be the similarity (or lack of) between these kinds of camps and some of the extreme madrasahs. Are some the activities portrayed in this movie child abuse? At least one of the children showed a tic disorder which could indicate some neurological misfunctions. So is it religious intensity or an actual physical disorder? Anyhow, video is ripe for discussion!

Doctor Bashir: "Of all the stories you told me, which were true and which weren't?"
Elim Garak: "My dear Doctor, they're all true"
Doctor Bashir: "Even the lies?"
Elim Garak: "Especially the lies"

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Message 4 of 4 (384333)
02-10-2007 11:18 PM


Thread copied to the Jesus Camp documentary thread in the Faith and Belief forum, this copy of the thread has been closed.

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