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Author Topic:   The Barbarity of Christianity (as compared to Islam)
Nighttrain
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Message 264 of 299 (384535)
02-11-2007 10:48 PM
Reply to: Message 256 by Tal
02-11-2007 1:02 PM


Re: We're just better, dammit!
- Meaning is doing for others.
- Meaning is risking your life for (ot)hers.
- Meaning is putting your bodies and families' peace of mind on the line to defeat some of the most evil, sick killers the world has ever known.
- Meaning is leaving the comfort of home to fight to make sure that there still will be a home for your family and for your nation and for free men and women everywhere
Gimme another dose of Yankee Doodle, as Hawkeye Pierce would probably say.
Thing is, those noble words could just as well be used as a rallying call by the patriots--oops--terrorists of Iraq/Afghanistan.
Coming home to a wife/husband and family slaughtered by either side won`t earn you an ally, no matter how many times you apologise. Or how just your cause.

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Nighttrain
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Message 275 of 299 (384726)
02-12-2007 8:06 PM
Reply to: Message 269 by Tal
02-12-2007 1:16 PM


Re: We're just better, dammit!
Those patriots-oops-terrorists are the ones killing the families.
Turning and running (thus giving the patriots-oops-terrorists a huge victory over the lone super-power of the world) will only show these guys that what they do (killing wife/husband/family) will work to get their way. And they'll continue, only next time it will be in your market.
Are you trying to tell me Coalition forces have NEVER killed families?
I wouldn`t get too rapt in the idea of 'the lone super-power'. Super-powers come and go as the last couple of centuries have proven. The U.S. is scratching to keep up troop numbers as it is, national debt is reaching disturbing proportions, and the oil crisis showed the vulnerability of fuel supplies. Of course, you could let off all your nuclear weapons and live in a devastated planet, but who would be left to give you an attaboy? Wouldn`t it be better to stop meddling in other people`s affairs and try making friends for a change? That could mean disbanding the CIA, but then they never got Iraq right in the first place, did they?

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Nighttrain
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Message 281 of 299 (385334)
02-15-2007 6:54 AM
Reply to: Message 278 by Buzsaw
02-13-2007 11:44 AM


Re: What spirit?
Move over, Schraf.
I challenge you to cite one verse in the entire NT that advocates violence by followers of Jesus and his desciples. How many times do I need remind you that the originators of the NT, Jesus and the apostles all advocated suffering rather than reprisal, revenge or any other violence for advancement of the kingdom of God?
Matt 21:12/Mark 11:15 While not advocating violence, actions usually speak louder than words. Hardly non-violence.
Matt. 10:34 While it may be a metaphorical statement, how would fundies understand the difference, let alone the meaning of metaphor?
Luke 22:36 Arming those who weren`t carrying? And the aftermath as a result of carrying a sword? Not anticipated by Jesus?
Matt 8:28-32/Mark 5:1-13/Luke 8:27-33 What is going on here, Buz? Gergesenes? Gadarenes? Two men? One man? All I can read is a pretty violent destruction of someone else`s property on a massive scale. And no compensation paid, either.
I won`t go into the treatment of His mother and family as we don`t know the circumstances of the separation, but Jesus is hardly a role model with the barbs and sneers He directs their way.

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