hush that fuss, everybody move to the back of the bus

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I'm not sure if the Who'd mind. after all, they have a tendency to have politically charged songs.

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Nobody cares what a bunch of average joe's think, since they don't have an agenda.

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But then again, I speak as a living version of star trek vulcan, so perhaps normal men can't really control themselves whenever they see a woman's hair or leg...

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My standard response to this is this:If she had a gun pointed at him, any sane man would have no problem whatsoever completely controlling any and every inappropriate sexual impulse he might have had towards that woman.Therefore, any sane man most certainly can control any and every inappropriate sexual impulse towards any woman.They just don't think that they have to.

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Or maybe that men are automatically assumed to have greater physical strength

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Er, that would be a reasonable assumption, since most men are physically stronger than most women.

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True, and most women cook better than most men,

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???How is that a valid comparison. Cooking is learned. Gendered physical characteristics, including strength, are not learned, but inherent.

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but I still wouldn't ask only women to cook, because its not true in every situation. Instead, I would search for the best cook - regardless of sex.

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How about you replace "cooking" with "ability to grow visible facial hair" and see how you get on with women.Look, I want to make it clear that I am very, very much in favor of equal opportunity for everyone regardless of gender, but it isn't sexist to assume that men, in general, are physically stronger than women, in general. It's the same as assuming that most men will have a lot more ability to grow visible facial hair than most women.

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Continuing our little conversation the other night, wouldn't it be better if they don't get the sexual impulse at all?

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Well sure, but I'm not so sheltered to think that eliminating any people having inappropriate thoughts is likely to ever be possible.I don't care at all about what people think. It's how they act that is of concern.

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But on the other hand, I also sort of don't think I agree with you on this. Just about every major current living religion has a long history of sexual suppression. If you look specifically at the measures these religions have taken, they look like the measures were taken out of the assumption that men cannot control their sexual urges. Muslim women are required to cover themselves from head to toe (the ones that do anyway) because supposedly the assumption seems to be that men cannot control themselves therefore instead of taking measures to teach the men how to control themselves they just cover up the women.

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Middle ages christians also had a similar attitude. It was always the women seducing the men...

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I can't speak for these men we are talking about, but it seems like it's more than a conscious choice they make about their control, or the lack thereof, over their sexual impulses.

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Well, OK, but I ask, "so what?"

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And no, I don't think the gun example is sufficient enough. A lot of people do things at gunpoint they would otherwise never do.

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But that's the point.Replace the gun with a couple of burly bodyguards. Or perhaps a secular police officer, or even a press photographer. Or a big bunch of Jewish grandmothers with frying pans.When they are sufficiently motivated, people can very easily control their inappropriate impulses.It's just easier and makes you feel much more powerful to blame the victim and compel the object of your impulses to take all the responsibility for your actions instead of taking it on yourself.That basic, childish, irresponsible premise has always been the modus operandi of patriarchy.