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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Look at a map of Staten Island. The Island is separated from New Jersey by what would be called a stream in most places.
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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
That's why I wonder about the sloths, in particular. Even if we're generous with land bridges, at the rate these animals move I figure that, starting from the Middle-east 5000 years ago, they'd just about be reaching South America now. Can any YEC help me to understand the story of the sloths? I don't understand what it is you don't understand. The Sloths had to flat hump it to get to South America, flat hump it. Now they tired. Give them time to get a second wind and they'll flat hump it again. Just watch out. Once they get rolling you don't whant to get caught in the route of a rampant sloth. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Well I am mainly an EVC lurker, but I thought of something while reading this thread. Certainly I'm not the first to think about this, but 40 days of rain that covered the top of the highest mountains would be sufficient to kill all vegetation. How, then, do creationists (or other supporters of the flood) suppose that herbivorous animals survived? Easy one. The only herbivores were those on the Ark. They lived of the several years supply of foodstuffs on the Ark.
Furthermore, after the flood, the carnivorous animals would also have to eat. Did they wait for the other animals to begin reproducing to eat? If not, they would be taking away from the short supply of animals. The carnivores were on the Ark too remember. And they weren't "Real Carnivores", but rather just munched on grass and herbs and dreamed of steak and lamb chops. Edited by jar, : No reason given. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
How could there have possibly been __years worth of food on the ark for thousands and thousands of animals? How would the food avoid becoming spoiled during that period of time? That's no problem. Where do you think all the water for the rain came from? The food was dehydrated and the excess moisture of course went into the atmosphere.
An animal can't be a partial carnivore. Of course not. They were all herbivores. Carnivores only evolved after the flood, and you can tell how evolved a kind is based on that. The more evolved kinds are fully carnivore, lessor evolved kinds are omnivores and the least evolved kinds are still herbivores. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
That still doesn't answer our issue of space in the ark. But the food was hyper-macro dehydrated. A whole barn full of hay bales was reduced to the size of a sugar cube. Remember we got 40 days of rain out of the moisture in the food that was to go on board. That is a lot of food.
What evidence is there for this claim? I'd say that the claim was self-evident and fully supported by the evidence. All of the kinds that were on the Ark still exist today. Since no more than seven of any kind (excluding the human kind) were taken onboard and in many cases only two of a kind, and every kind listed still exists today, it is obvious that there were no carnivores on the Ark. Today we see herbivores, omnivores and carnivores. Unless you are going to invoke magic, something I have not done, the omnivores and carnivores must have evolved from the herbivores. There is yet more evidence of the Flood. Consider Gopherwood. Before the Flood it was so common that it could be used to build a vessel as large as the Ark, yet today, it exists no where. There is not one single Gopherwood tree left. Why? Because they were felled to build the Ark and the saplings that were left did not survive the Flood. If the Flood never happened, if the Ark was not built, where are the Gopherwood Forests I ask you? Just answer that! Edited by jar, : fix subtitle Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Are you sure that's kosher? Yes. It was simply a step in processing and as long as both the dehydration and rehydration are done under the supervision of a Rabbi, it is Kosher. That does not address though the overwhelming evidence of the missing Gopherwood Forests. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Y'all down there in Texas know how to respect the word of a genuine preacher, so listen to old Adam Clark. Simply a case of denial. In addition, what he proposes is Just a Theory and we need to Preach the Controversy. The FACT remains, there are no more Gopherwood Forests and folk like Adam Clark are just trying to handwave the evidence away. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Everything you need to know about Gopher Wood can be found in the link below. It finishes with the priceless conclusion: I don't understand why you continue to post links that just support the Flood. Of course no one knows what Gopherwood is today. That FACT is one of the clearest indications of the TRUTH of Noah's Flood. When Moshe wrote down the account of Noah's Flood, folk still remembered the great Gopherwood Forests and so the phrase carried as much meaning as when today we speak of a Pine Forest or Oak Forest. However all the mature trees were harvested to build the Ark, and not one seedling survived, which makes sense since God said he would never again Flood the Earth, and so another Ark would be unnecessary. But is was the special growth properties of Gopherwood that made it ideal. It was a tall majestic tree, and the first branches were often over 150 meters above the ground. Since the trunk, instead of being the more common round shape, grew more like a flat sided oval (think of a racetrack) it was perfect for major construction projects. Often the Gopherwood tree trunk might be only a few inches thick in one dimension by several feet in the other. The proof of this is again found in the Ark. Noah, his family and neighbors built the Ark using only stone tools. If the had had to fell tree, then shape those trees into planks, do you think they could have built something the size of the Ark? No, of course not. It was only the unique characteristics of Gopherwood, it's strength, durability and more importantly, the fact that it grew as a natural plank, that made the Ark possible. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Was it some kind of punishment from God that forced Noah to use stone tools in the Bronze Age? I thought he was God's favourite. I reckon God probably gave him a chainsaw. Depends exactly when the Flood happened. It was certainly no later than the EBA and possibly even before. While Noah and Co. may have had bronze tools they would have been only the most basic. In addition, the fact that the Gopherwood trees grew so unusually made for little working, and there is still few sharper cutting and shaving tools than a well knapped flint.
Seeing as you know so much about it, why didn't God just build the damned thing for him anyway. Idle hands are the Devils playground. In addition, it was OTJT for the family in tasks they might face after the flood like building shelters. Edited by jar, : No reason given. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Well, Zero. Since there was no flood, not even a miraculous flood, the question is simply silly.
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