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ringo

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Message 3 of 55 (385145)
02-14-2007 11:13 AM

Reply to: Message 1 by Jaderis
02-14-2007 3:34 AM

Jaderis writes:

Either we stay "in the closet" and don't reveal the gender of our sweethearts or we do.

The love of my life was a lesbian.

She would only "come out" to people she trusted. All of her exes had gender-ambiguous names like Jerry/Jerri.

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Message 15 of 55 (385178)
02-14-2007 1:47 PM

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02-14-2007 12:44 PM

nemesis_juggernaut writes:

Therefore, most people do assume that the person they are speaking with is heterosexual.

Allow me to quote myself:

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The love of my life was a lesbian. Message 3

So, am I a lesbian?

Go ahead, read all my posts and see what hints I've given about my sexuality. I'll wait.
**taps toe in a feminine manner**

Have you been assuming all along that I was a straight male? What would change if you found out I was a lesbian? Would you think less of me?

And this is only the Internet. What about real life, where you can't change your avatar so easily? What would you think of my wife if she was the same sex as me?

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Message 21 of 55 (385191)
02-14-2007 2:42 PM

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02-14-2007 2:19 PM

nemesis_juggernaut writes:

Knowing you, though, methinks you're playing the devil's advocate.

"Devil's advocate" would mean I was defending a position that I don't agree with. That is definitely not what I am doing.

I'm trying to make a point about anonymity and ambiguity. On the Internet, it can be dangerous to give out specific information about yourself. Unfortunately, that can be true in real life too, for homosexuals. Even an everyday phrase like "my wife" can get you in trouble.

The challenge, as I understand it, is to spend a day in somebody else's shoes. Try to go through a whole day without mentioning your partner's gender. Try to understand what it's like to live every day like that.

Homosexuality is no worse, or better, than any sexual immorality.

This is not the place for it, but we might have to have a thread on what "sexual immorality" is - since you evidently don't know.

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Message 26 of 55 (385225)
02-14-2007 6:01 PM

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02-14-2007 5:20 PM

nemesis_juggernaut writes:

"Devil's advocate" would mean I was defending a position that I don't agree with. That is definitely not what I am doing.

So are you a lesbian or not?

Do you understand what "devil's advocate" means?

I'd rather know what its like to be in the shoes of a crippled person, which to me, seems far more grievous than someone who doesn't feel comfortable with divulging their sexual identity.

Shame on you. It's not a "most grievous grievance" contest.
You should have empathy for everybody.

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Message 42 of 55 (385392)
02-15-2007 12:55 PM

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02-15-2007 12:51 PM

Re: Coming out

nemesis_juggernaut writes:

Isn't me asking them what its like to be lesbians me attempting to understand how they feel?

Asking, "How does that feel?" isn't the same as walking in somebody else's shoes. Stop being the salesman and try being the customer.

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Message 44 of 55 (385402)
02-15-2007 1:35 PM

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02-15-2007 1:28 PM

Re: Coming out

nemesis_juggernaut writes:

Why simply not allude to the sex of my wife when I could just be gay for a day? I could make topics surface that would imply that I'm gay and I could judge their body language and reactions. Sound good to you?

Sounds good. Go for it.

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Message 51 of 55 (385742)
02-16-2007 11:20 PM

Reply to: Message 50 by kuresu
02-16-2007 10:54 PM

kuresu writes:

i'm confused.

Mission accomplished.

Originally, I intended to be ambiguous only for Valentine's Day. Now I think I'm going to give up my online gender for Lent.

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