Valentine's Day Challenge

Ringo,I, like Juggs, have always assumed you to be a white male (perhaps influenced at least slightly by your former avatar). But I'm glad to see you're as discreet with your sex and sexuality as you are with your beliefs. I love reading your posts. Never disclosing your beliefs, you can easily point out misconceptions or misrepresentations in your opponents' arguments.And your skill in pointing out logical fallacies, especially regarding the interpretation of Bible verses, has always been top-notch. So thanks, Ringo, for making my EvC experience that much better.(Sorry for going off topic. This conversation just caught me off guard when it probably shouldn't have. Cheers.)

What's wrong with empathy? This was not an exercise in self-pity. My state of mind does not hinge on whether or not someone is "sensitive" to me. I don't know where you gathered that from.This was simply something I thought would give people a different perspective on the day to day lives of closeted gays and lesbians. This is, unfortunately, true. This, however, does not mean that any attempts to gain empathy with another group of people are meaningless and should not be attempted because "we all have problems." Again, true, but just because there are starving children in this world does not mean that any attempt at understanding those who are different from yourself should be abandoned for more meaningful pursuits. In fact, it seems to me that those who learn to understand and emapthize with groups of humans different from themselves very quickly realize the humanity and inherent dignity of not just that one "other," but all humans. It is no mistake that there is alot of crossover (at least as far as I have observed) in membership in or support of varying social organizations (OxFam, Habitat for Humanity, Doctors Without Borders, PFLAG, Peace and Justice groups, etc).Support for one group does not automatically exclude one from supporting any other groups. It is simply inane to suggest that anyone who spends any amount of time concentrating on gay and lesbian issues is ignoring all of the other suffering in this world.

I've already revealed a little about myself in various threads. My post count isn't so high that they should be too hard to find.This thread, however, is not supposed to be about me. Most gay people can spot me a mile away. Most straight people (esp. males) assume I am straight.

Didn't Dan Carroll propose something quite similar to this not too long ago?I think this is a fantastic idea, altho you would probably have to spend the day around people you do not know. I think your friends and family would see right through your facade and ruin the experiment, but I think it would be interesting to surround yourself with another group of people who mirror your current circle. Maybe pop into a church across town that is similar to yours or something like that.

i'm confused. didn't you at one point claim that had you not left germany when you did, you could have been one of those stuffing jews into the gas chambers? this would mean most likely male (I somehow can't picture Nazi's enlisting women at the death camps)don't remember where I saw that, or if it's even true.not that it really matters. we like ya anyway you are.

Mission accomplished. Originally, I intended to be ambiguous only for Valentine's Day. Now I think I'm going to give up my online gender for Lent.

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Hi kuresu:There were over 3000 female guards at the camps-Female guards in Nazi concentration camps

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thanks for the history lesson.good thing I'm generally confused, or else this feeling would be quite disconcerting.

When I read your post a Stephen King Short story came to mind( apt pupil). . In the story it mention a female at on of the death camps who was rumored to have lamp shades made from human skin{ Ilse Koch). I read your post your not confused.Edited by alacrity fitzhugh, : No reason given.

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if you say so. trust me, I am confused about a lot of things. esp. higher level math (like calculus)