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joshua221  Inactive Member |
Its nice that you are taking a class in philosophy. In subsequent units will you be telling us that morality is God (Augustine), subjective (Spinoza), or the will to power (Nietzsche)? That isn't philosophy. You don't think, don't spread your disgusting disease around here please.
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kuresu Member (Idle past 2532 days) Posts: 2544 From: boulder, colorado Joined: |
is it more moral to kill two or one?
is one action (doing nothing) or the other (killing one, the son), more or less moral than the other? that's the question.
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anglagard Member (Idle past 856 days) Posts: 2339 From: Socorro, New Mexico USA Joined: |
prophyx writes: I am not GOD. No, but you are at least as repetitive.
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joshua221  Inactive Member |
Refer to my response to sidelined.
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joshua221  Inactive Member |
Refer to my reply to sidelined.
(Neither is moral.)
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anglagard Member (Idle past 856 days) Posts: 2339 From: Socorro, New Mexico USA Joined: |
prophyx writes: That isn't philosophy. Define philosophy. Or better yet tell your instructor that you get to define who is a philosopher instead of him from now on.
You don't think, don't spread your disgusting disease around here please. Pot. Kettle. Black.
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sidelined Member (Idle past 5927 days) Posts: 3435 From: Edmonton Alberta Canada Joined: |
prophex
So then what do you consider to be moral exactly?
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kuresu Member (Idle past 2532 days) Posts: 2544 From: boulder, colorado Joined: |
if no neither choice is moral (doing nothing or killing the son),
then why let two die when you can save a life? remind me to put my life in your hands.
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Trump won  Suspended Member (Idle past 1259 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: |
A man that spent his life surrounded by books
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alacrity fitzhugh Member (Idle past 4308 days) Posts: 194 Joined: |
Doing nothing is still not moral. Hang your son one dies do nothing two die. No matter what your action or non action will cause death it is up to you on how many. six(sic)six
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RickJB Member (Idle past 5009 days) Posts: 917 From: London, UK Joined: |
It's cute how you explain who Socrates is for the benefit of those who haven't heard of him.
Anyway... How do you account for the morality of war, in which the killing of an enemy (as opposed to a compatriot) is considered "just"? If both sides consider their cause to be "just" who is truly right? If the idea that society determines what is moral is "pathetic", why do we see such behavior?
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Doddy Member (Idle past 5929 days) Posts: 563 From: Brisbane, Australia Joined: |
prophex writes: They are not educated. They live in ignorance and sometimes expound it for their own benefit. Why should they need an education? You mean they need to learn their morals? I thought you said
prophex writes: We are born with the ability to know what is right. "Der Mensch kann was er will; er kann aber nicht wollen was er will." (Man can do what he wills but he cannot will what he wills.) - Arthur Schopenhauer
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Doddy Member (Idle past 5929 days) Posts: 563 From: Brisbane, Australia Joined: |
Prophex writes: A dilemma such as this forces you to put a "value" on human life. Something that is extremely crude and lowly. Firstly, are you referring to human life being crude and lowly, or moral dilemmas being crude and lowly? Regardless, you seem to be asserting here that humans do not have an inherent value. But then before you said:
prophex writes: It isn't just because humans each have a dignity that should not be violated. All humans are each unique and special, different. to value: judge the worth of something dignity: nobility or elevation of character; worthiness Looks to me like you have already placed a value on human life. "Der Mensch kann was er will; er kann aber nicht wollen was er will." (Man can do what he wills but he cannot will what he wills.) - Arthur Schopenhauer
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Prophex,
If you feel the need to refer someone back to a previous post, please provide the link so they can read the correct post. Per the rules: Points should be supported with evidence and/or reasoned argumentation. Address rebuttals through the introduction of additional evidence or by enlarging upon the argument. Do not repeat previous points without further elaboration. Avoid bare assertions. I don't see that you are enlarging upon your argument. You seem to be treading water. If you have no more answers than what you have already written, then there is no need for this thread to remain open. If this pattern of referring posters to previous answers and repeating answers continues, I will close this thread. NOTE TO ALL PARTICIPANTS: Please argue the position and not the person. Please direct any comments concerning this Admin msg to the Moderation Thread. Any response in this thread will receive a 24 hour timeout. Thank you
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Phat Member Posts: 18298 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
prophex writes: Socrates in short believed, that justice was for each to "mind his own business" and do what each does best. This post is probably a dishonor to Socrates and Plato, but I feel it is good enough for this purpose. Hopefully it is clear that Conventionalism is dead. Great post, by the way! I'm impressed, Charlie.... You always become fascinated with what you are learning in school and both you and your brother show this through your posts. I guess that my question to you is this: If society does not determine what is true, do you believe that truth is knowable? If so, what is the source of this truth...and...can it even be quantified as one particular absolute?
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