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Conventionalism is Dead - Society does NOT determine what is moral.

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ringo
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02-17-2007 1:05 PM 		Reply to: Message 60 by Phat
02-17-2007 10:38 AM

Phat writes:
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If society does not determine what is true, do you believe that truth is knowable?
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I think that's the crux of the matter: the difference between "the" Truth and the knowable "truth".
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If "the" Truth can be acquired by reason, then TweedleProphex should be about to lay out that reasoning for us. So far, nothing.
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So far, the knowable "truth" seems to be different "truths" known by different societies.
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ringo
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02-22-2007 10:14 AM 		Reply to: Message 111 by anastasia
02-21-2007 6:09 PM

Re: Agreement Woes
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... is the perfect moral code, if it exists, something which will or could come out of our human minds? Or something 'real' and waiting to be discovered by human minds?
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I think you have your terminology backwards.
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"Real" morality is what we can conceive with human minds and understand with human minds. The spooky, injected-from-outside "morality" that you postulate is very unreal. You can't even describe it in real terms.
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