How accurate is this email?

SEVENTEEN WAYS TO BE A GOOD LIBERAL1. You have to be against capital punishment, but support abortion on demand.2. You have to believe that businesses create oppression but governments create prosperity.3. You have to believe that guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens are more of a threat than nuclear weapons technology in the hands of Iran , China and/or North Korea.4. You have to believe that there was no art before federal funding.5. You have to believe that global temperatures are less affected by cyclical changes in the earth's climate and more affected by soccer moms driving SUVs.6. You have to believe that gender roles are artificial, but being homosexual is natural.7. You have to believe that the AIDS virus is spread by a lack of federal funding.8. You have to believe that the same teacher who can't teach 4th-graders how to read is somehow qualified to teach those same kids about sex.9. You have to believe that hunters don't care about nature, but PETA activists do.10. You have to believe that self-esteem is more important than actually doing something that might merit it.11. You have to believe the NRA is bad because it supports certain parts of the Constitution, while the ACLU is good because it
supports gutting certain parts of the Constitution.12. You have to believe that taxes are too low, but ATM fees are too high.13. You have to believe that Margaret Sanger and Gloria Steinem are more important to American history than Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, or Abraham Lincoln.14. You have to believe that standardized tests are racist, but racial quotas and set-asides are not.15. You have to believe that the only reason socialism hasn't worked anywhere it's been tried is because the right people haven't been in charge.16. You have to believe that homosexual parades displaying drag queens and transvestites should be constitutionally protected, and manger scenes at Christmas should be illegal.17. You have to believe that this message is a part of a vast right-wing conspiracy.

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"A man can no more diminish God's glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word, 'darkness' on the walls of his cell." -C.S. Lewis

No, it isn't mine. That's why I entitled the thread, "How accurate is this email?"

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"A man can no more diminish God's glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word, 'darkness' on the walls of his cell." -C.S. Lewis

Sorry, I know its inflammatory. It was just so funny.

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"A man can no more diminish God's glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word, 'darkness' on the walls of his cell." -C.S. Lewis

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You have to be against capital punishment, but support abortion on demand.

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That its ironic.

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You have to believe that businesses create oppression but governments create prosperity.

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Generally speaking that would seem to be the case. You think that Iran and North Korea have been trying to get hold of nuclear weaponry because of the invasion of Iraq? I'm not seeing the correlation. Can you connect the dots for me?

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You have to believe that there was no art before federal funding.

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By the Federal Government though? Anthropogenic global warming is real. Its caused in part by carbon dioxide and methane gases. We should all stop breathing and eating beans in order to save the environment.

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You have to believe that gender roles are artificial, but being homosexual is natural.

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I think the point is that one doesn't make sense without the other. If gender roles are artificial then wouldn't that extend to homosexuality as well?

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You have to believe that the AIDS virus is spread by a lack of federal funding.

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But there already is an exorbitant amount of funding. Every pharmaceutical company in the world has vested interests in finding a vaccine. That's beau coup bucks for them. Call me old fashion, but I think schools should be going to an actual education. Its the job of parents to teach their kids about sex, not some fruitloop that I didn't give permission to. I don't like sport hunters at all. I think its a pointless, machismo endeavor. However, I think PETA goes overboard. They love the muskrat more than they love their own children.

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You have to believe that self-esteem is more important than actually doing something that might merit it.

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I think the writer is poking fun at the celebration of mediocrity. I guess you have a point. The NRA might endorse a 50 caliber sniper rifle with depleted uranium rounds as a perfectly normal gun for home defense. That's not how it works. No, its just a joke. The writer is probably wondering why Sanger and Steinem are more celebrated than people who have made actual contributions to society. Being uppity isn't exactly a coveted virtue.

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You have to believe that standardized tests are racist, but racial quotas and set-asides are not.

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Excuse me? The time somebody cracked open my skull? I've never said anything like at all. ..... okay. Just everything else associated with Jesus then?

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"A man can no more diminish God's glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word, 'darkness' on the walls of his cell." -C.S. Lewis

???? What else is a fetus? Inorganic matter? Of course they are "living." Do you think a fetus magically comes alive when he/she passes through the birth canal? There are many shades of liberalism that in some cases seem to be a dichotomy, such as the transition from Red to Green. Which liberals do you think I was referring to?

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You think that Iran and North Korea have been trying to get hold of nuclear weaponry because of the invasion of Iraq? I'm not seeing the correlation. Can you connect the dots for me?

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I didn't see that as being the reason listed by Dan. Not that matters because both nations have been caught stealing not just a few cookies, but the whole jar. Okay, well if that's what you mean, I agree with you. There is little doubt in my mind that Abamandndidinahidadajad (did I spell that correctly ) feels like the US military is stretched thin. The function of the government is clearly defined in the Constitution. Art isn't anywhere in that. I love art as much as the next guy, but that is a personal endeavor, not a government subsidized program. To me that's like the government funding the next Ozzy tour because music is an art form. It seems wholly inappropriate. What are talking about? Wasn't this characterization exacerbated by the evolutionary point of view of hunter-gatherers? History definitely tells us of strong gender roles throughout many different cultures that never came in to contact with one another. Nature doled out those roles, but some people want to pretend that they are the concoction of of organized religion. There is no determinant cause for homosexuality. They've been looking in to that for some time, which tells me that there are probably numerous factors, such as a conglomerate of psychology and physiology. Mostly psychological I would say. As far as gender roles are concerned, this push to androgenize the lot of us seems to make no sense. If we are supposed to consolidate the sexes where the sexes are virtually identical, then that would nullify homo and heterosexuality. If males are attracted to other men, that's because they desire male attributes sexually, right? If straight men like women its because they desire female attributes sexually, right? If we turn in to this androgenous lump, would there even be sexuality? If so, what would it look like? I don't think schools should teach either. I think schools should be worried about teaching mathematics, science, history, language, etc. Things like drivers ed and sex ed should be something that parents should be teaching their kids. Schools should be focused on more specialized things. If that much time is invested on a plastic or ceramic baby Jesus, think of how much more worthwhile their lives could be invested in actual things of interest. If that is taboo then how do you feel about firehouses, police stations, or other forms of local governments that take it upon themselves to support presidential elections? I have seen numerous government institutions that openly supported John Kerry in the 2004 elections. Is it more appropriate for a government entity to openly support a specific candidate than it is to traditionally display a manger on a holiday DEDICATED to Christ???? The holiday is a religious one.

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"A man can no more diminish God's glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word, 'darkness' on the walls of his cell." -C.S. Lewis

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You think that Iran and North Korea have been trying to get hold of nuclear weaponry because of the invasion of Iraq? I'm not seeing the correlation. Can you connect the dots for me?

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You think that Iran and N. Korea suddenly decided to expand their armament to include nuclear weapons because of the Iraq war..? That is pure fantasy. Making nuclear reactors, finding and synthesizing the necessary materials, arming the warheads, etc, is a long and arduous process. That means these programs have been going on for years and have no connection to the Iraq war. In fact, all nations were at relative peace with both these nations until they started their nuclear programs. This is a UN issue, not solely a US concern. Most nations have taken issue with these two countries because both have broken treaties.

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Anthropogenic global warming is real. Its caused in part by carbon dioxide and methane gases. We should all stop breathing and eating beans in order to save the environment.

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........ That was obviously a parody..... But if you want to actually stop breathing to mitigate global warming, don't let me stop you.

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Just everything else associated with Jesus then?

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Hyperbole is for effect. It doesn't literally include everyone. Just those that take on asinine arguments, like, "Baby Jesus hurts my feelings."

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"A man can no more diminish God's glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word, 'darkness' on the walls of his cell." -C.S. Lewis

The real question is why gender roles are something to look down on in straights, but something applauded in homosexuals. There seems to be some disparity. Why is that?

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"A man can no more diminish God's glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word, 'darkness' on the walls of his cell." -C.S. Lewis

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Every pharmaceutical company in the world has vested interests in finding a vaccine. That's beau coup bucks for them.

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Good point. But even if they did come up with a vaccine that would wipe out the disease, the inoculation process would still generate a huge revenue. Plus, the company who invented the treatment would be in good standing with the public as great philanthropists. They would be looked to for the next crisis or crises.But I've always wondered how much the pharmaceutical companies really want a complete cure. As you've shared it would be much more lucrative for them to come up with drugs that force the affected population to take them on a daily basis. Lets face it, they need sick people. I'm not suggesting that there is any kind of conspiracy. But I have wondered just how much they actually care about healing people from their ailments completely.

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"A man can no more diminish God's glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word, 'darkness' on the walls of his cell." -C.S. Lewis

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1. You have to be against capital punishment, but support abortion on demand.

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Look, I didn't write this piece so if you have any bones of contention, take it up with the writer. This is obviously supposed to be a joke. Its poking fun at how many people of a liberal persuasion unyieldingly support abortion for any and all reasons. Likewise, those same people seem to be against the death penalty which is reserved for homicidal offenders. The irony is that they condemn the innocent but free the guilty. Make sense?

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You have to believe that guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens are more of a threat than nuclear weapons technology in the hands of Iran China and/or North Korea.

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Perhaps you do. But the fact remains that many leftist luminaries do not in any way support the Second Amendment. No one is worried about the fall of gender roles because they can't stop nature. Gender roles have to do with natural predilections, whereas people avowed against them have to inevitably try and subvert nature and go right to nurture. Uhhh...... What? Converting a weapon to an automatic is remarkably easy. As long as they have a weapon that can convert I think they'll be happy.

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"A man can no more diminish God's glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word, 'darkness' on the walls of his cell." -C.S. Lewis

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You have to be against capital punishment, but support abortion on demand.

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I don't support either abortion or the death penalty, but the irony I was speaking of is that its the killing of an innocent life, but the sparing of a guilty one who has taken other innocent lives. That's ironic.

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You have to believe that businesses create oppression but governments create prosperity.

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As with anything I guess. Trained in what? Sex? Since when is sex an academic endeavor? If sex education was merely about physiology, there would be some science behind it. And in that way I see it as completely applicable. But sex education is more about telling kids to wear condoms and less to do with any actual academic standard. I don't think its the school's place to teach kids about things their parents should be doing. I'm simply relaying the email as it was sent to me. But I like Percy's link better because it pokes fun at both sides. But a lot of people do. Which is pretty silly considering the root of 49 has nothing to do with race. Agreed. Unless we heal ourselves on an individual level it just won't happen. The idealization of socialism and communism is great. I don't think anyone disagrees with the basic premise. Unfortunately, the ideology writes checks that it can't cash.

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"A man can no more diminish God's glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word, 'darkness' on the walls of his cell." -C.S. Lewis

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You think that Iran and North Korea have been trying to get hold of nuclear weaponry because of the invasion of Iraq? I'm not seeing the correlation. Can you connect the dots for me?

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What did this have anything to do with what I posted?

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By the Federal Government though?

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Or here's an idea. How about people fund it themselves like every one else in the world has to do? The sole function of the government is to protect its citizens. Art doesn't factor in to that.

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Call me old fashion, but I think schools should be going to an actual education. Its the job of parents to teach their kids about sex, not some fruitloop that I didn't give permission to.

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Strawman. Just because some people spend less time with their kids than they like doesn't mean they can't take five minutes out of their day to learn about the birds and the bees. But this is besides the point. Schools are to foster academic learning, not learn about social ideas. If they are going to teach about social mores, then they could also teach how to have effective relationships, not how to place a piece of plastic on your penis. America is already woefully behind academically as it is. I think we need all of the alloted time going to learning.

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"A man can no more diminish God's glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word, 'darkness' on the walls of his cell." -C.S. Lewis

We'll be sure to pull the plug on you in the event you lose consciousness. That aside, you do realize that even a fetus is sentient, (as if that were an argument for the cause). They are completely aware even if they don't yet possess the intellectual capacity to know where they are. But if you still want to assert this, when exactly does "sentience" develop in humans? Magically at birth? Then so is putting your shoes on by the same premise.Since you seem to agree that standardized tests are in fact "racist," can you explain to all of us what it is that makes it racist? Because I'm mystified at how such an argument ever formulated in the first place. This sounds like a legitimate grievance so long as they did not, in fact, explain the scoring system used in the game of bowling. This is an interesting topic and I'd like to go more in to detail on it. I'm gonna write up a thread on IQ when I'm done with this post. Love should be socialist, not an economy. Anyway, maybe I'll expound on that later, but I want to delve in to the IQ thread right now.

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"A man can no more diminish God's glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word, 'darkness' on the walls of his cell." -C.S. Lewis

If you want a DNR order, you have to annotate that specifically in a living will. If it ain't on paper, it never happened. That's just the way it goes. If you haven't drafted one yet, I suggest you do that, otherwise, in the event that you find yourself in a persistent vegetative state, their testimony alone may not be enough to pull the plug.

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They are completely aware even if they don't yet possess the intellectual capacity to know where they are.

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Crash, the point that you are glibly overlooking is that infants do not have the intellectual capacity to understand their own life either. Therefore, you saying that they aren't sentient is specious at best. Aside from which, sentience is basically the lowest rung of consciousness. Fetus' can feel pain, have self-preservation mechanisms, and therefore, are sentient. They simply have not the capacity to understand themselves. But then again, that's what life is. Every day, my son and daughter learn more about themselves and become more aware of themselves in relation to their immediate environment. We could even extend that to adults. But you would have to then include infants and even toddlers in that equation. Surely you aren't advocating that they can be aborted in this stage in life, are you? That's silly. So a mute or deaf person is not sentient because they can't absorb language the same way we can? At the nanosecond of conception we are beginning our life as new beings and slowly absorbing everything. I assume you've heard of the studies where babies of almost all mammals can identify their mothers voice or call. How? Because they've been listening to it during their gestation. They may not have an intellectual understanding of it, but its a clear mark of sentience, isn't it?

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Then so is putting your shoes on by the same premise.

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No, I'm just illustrating that teaching pubescent boys how to put a condom on does not constitute a physiology lesson. Outlandish? Its real simple Crash. There is no major or minor academic endeavor that would solely be geared towards teaching people how to practice safe sex. Rather, there are fields of study that seek to consolidate it in to their curriculum. School is not the appropriate place to be teaching sex ed. Parents should be teaching their kids about it. Now, again, if they were simply teaching the science of sex, I have no problem, whatsoever, with that. That's applicable. There is some academic reasons behind it. But scant focus is applied to this aspect. Really its just a soapbox for some blowhard to blather on about clandestine sexual trysts and to condone kids having sex. And they look dumbfounded as to why kids are still pregnant. That's because your education is inept. Kids and adults are inundated with sexual imagery morning, noon, and night. You want to take away gender roles? Turn on a major media outlet, virtually any cable station, and see what kind of "roles" are being portrayed. That's what shapes their identities. If you really want to gender norming to be the wave of the future, then look no further VH1, MTV, and BET which basically teach kids how they should act.Heh... And they call Christians sheep, as they bleat the night away.

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Since you seem to agree that standardized tests are in fact "racist," can you explain to all of us what it is that makes it racist?

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You gave one example, bowling, which has nothing to do with race. Unless you think that some races are some how predisposed to liking bowling, whereas others aren't, I don't see a connection. Would it be racist if you took an IQ test that talked about a game played in some area of the world that we knew little about? Or would you say that its just a bad question because it requires the people to understand the rules of the game? I don't really like or dislike bowling. I'm kind of indifferent to it. But anyway, the scoring system is pretty easy. You just count up the number of pins knocked down to tally your score. Right, but that's about culture, not about race. Case in point: If an African was asked to take an IQ test and one of the questions was about basketball, it would be culturally unfair to assess his intelligence based on a game he didn't understand. And yet, an African American might know every aspect of the game because he has a cultural advantage. Both are from the same race, but they come from different cultures. That's why I agree that using bowling was a bad idea, for cultural reasons or a lack of exposure to the rules of the game, but not because of race. Thanks

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"A man can no more diminish God's glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word, 'darkness' on the walls of his cell." -C.S. Lewis