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Fosdick 
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Message 42 of 93 (386222)
02-20-2007 12:40 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by ringo
02-17-2007 12:31 AM


Gender Roles & Nature
What does homosexuality have to do with gender roles? Males are still males and females are still females.
I don't see your point. Why not ask, What does sexuality have to do with reproduction? Sperm is still sperm and eggs are still eggs. When sperm try to fertilize other sperm nature seems to know something about gender roles.
”Hoot Mon

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Message 45 of 93 (386231)
02-20-2007 1:11 PM
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02-20-2007 12:45 PM


Re: Gender Roles & Nature
Those are sex roles, not gender roles. Gender roles are the socially-constructed stuff, like "men are doctors and women are nurses." Sex roles are the biological, nitty-gritty stuff like "men have penises and women have vaginas."
Right, sort of, in your signature pedantic way. But if it's nitty-gritty you want, then "gender" is only a literary term, not a biological term. Now, maybe you'll agree with this statement: Sperm don't try to fertilize other sperm because nature has provided sex roles for them, in which the role of eggs becomes the necessary counterpart. So then we're back to male-female roles in nature, which have played out quite well for billions of years. I'd hate to see where we would be today if Nature had chosen homosexuality over heterosexuality as way to put her males and females into service.
Sorry for drifting off topic.

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Fosdick 
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Message 50 of 93 (386238)
02-20-2007 1:39 PM
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02-20-2007 1:25 PM


Re: Gender Roles & Nature
Ringo wrote:
What does homosexuality have to do with gender roles? Males are still males and females are still females...
That should have been your first clue that we're not talking about biology.
Sorry. I was unaware that males and females are not biological...which makes me wonder how they accomplish non-biological sex. That would seem kind of dull to me.
”HM

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Fosdick 
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Message 56 of 93 (386251)
02-20-2007 3:05 PM
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02-20-2007 1:42 PM


Re: Gender Roles & Nature
Gosh, you mean like the vast majority of living things on Earth, which have no sex? I mean what are bacteria (in your world where there's only homosexuality and heterosexuality) if not tiny, microscopic, bathhouse buggerers?
Don't tell that to the countless millions of E. coli, conjugating lustily in your lower intestines. Here's a picture of such an orgy:
”HM
Edited by Hoot Mon, : added photo

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