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jar
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02-21-2007 10:42 PM 		Reply to: Message 1 by nator
02-21-2007 10:31 PM

If you win, your odds are 1.
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jar
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02-21-2007 11:36 PM 		Reply to: Message 3 by nator
02-21-2007 11:26 PM

Really?
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The odds of winning the lotto can be a million to one, but if I win it on my first try, then those weren't my odds were they?
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From what you quoted it sure looks like after the fact.
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Which simply points out the idiocy of trying to apply statistics and science to miracles. All those who suggest such methods are simply being silly.
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Miracles by definition are the result of an intentional act and are not, again by definition, repeatable. They are not subject to statistical analysis and any such efforts are simply a waste of time and a sure sign that the person suggesting such tests is pretty clueless about miracles.
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If by some miracle someone wins the lotto on their first try, it matters not what the odds were.
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jar
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02-22-2007 9:54 AM 		Reply to: Message 9 by riVeRraT
02-22-2007 9:29 AM

Re: Well put jar
How can you explain the course of events that led that person to pick that number on the same day that the winning number came out?
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There is your objective result, or you data, so now tell us nator, how did that person win? Keep in mind, that luck is not a scientific term.
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When we are dealing strictly with the Lottery though, I agree with Schraf. There the answer is simply luck. Frankly, IMHO your position is even sillier than her's.
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02-22-2007 11:21 AM 		Reply to: Message 16 by Modulous
02-22-2007 10:53 AM

The IRS will most certainly agree with you.
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02-22-2007 8:41 PM 		Reply to: Message 54 by riVeRraT
02-22-2007 8:28 PM

Not just OT but really silly, absurd even.
BTW, siding with her, won't win her to God.
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Now that is about as silly as anything anyone has ever posted.
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Why would ANYONE ever want to "win someone to God?"
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As for the rest, sure luck exists. It's not controllable or repeatable or subject to testing either.
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