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Archer Opteryx
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Message 27 of 72 (386710)
02-23-2007 3:52 AM
Reply to: Message 14 by Dubious Drewski
02-04-2007 7:20 AM


Drewsky:
I'm sure none of you can find flaws in the logic of "2 plus 2 equals 4"
2 plus 2 is 22.
This statement is as impeccably logical as yours.
Premises make all the difference.
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Archer
All species are transitional.

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Archer Opteryx
Member (Idle past 3616 days)
Posts: 1811
From: East Asia
Joined: 08-16-2006


Message 39 of 72 (434572)
11-16-2007 11:50 AM
Reply to: Message 38 by Dubious Drewski
11-16-2007 11:27 AM


Re: In hindsight...
A question. Your OP says you are for
freedom of speech UNLESS your words deliberately and needlessly harm (Muhammed cartoons, anyone?)
Do you draw the line at harm or just offence?
I ask because you state your opposition to the first, but your example is of the second.
I share your interest in making civility a priority. But one cannot speak at all without offending someone, somewhere.
If the possibility of causing offence defines the boundary, in itself, on freedom of speech, we all stand vetoed before we begin.
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Archer Opteryx
Member (Idle past 3616 days)
Posts: 1811
From: East Asia
Joined: 08-16-2006


Message 41 of 72 (434592)
11-16-2007 12:50 PM
Reply to: Message 40 by Dubious Drewski
11-16-2007 12:23 PM


Re: In hindsight...
Necro? What is this 'Necro'?
It's when someone purposely sets out to harm/offend that I take issue with, naturally.
So what is the answer to my question?
'Purpose' was not the issue. The deliberate and voluntary nature of most speech, in the face of the fact that anything one says will cause offence somewhere, was acknowledged in my statement.
My question was about what difference you see, if any, between harm and offence.
In response to my request for clarity you merely put a slash between the two terms (see above) and treated them as synonyms. Surely you realize this only perpetuates the ambiguity I asked you to clarify.
Do you in fact regard the terms harm and offence as synonyms?
If yes, please acknowledge. If no, please clarify.
Thanks.

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