Iraq needed Saddam?

It's rather obvious (to me anyway) that some kind of repressive government is needed in Iraq now to stop the bloodshed.It is also rather obvious (to me anyway) that the US had replaced Saddam as the current repressive government, but that it is losing what control it was able to exert. The country is now being divided up into fiefdoms whether the Botch administration realizes it or not, and I don't think we can do anything to stop that. Or several mini-Saddams under a loose umbrella facade of a national government. A government of mutualism by thugs.The same thing is happening in Afghanistan. And it was such an opportunity. If the US had stayed in Afghanistan and not invaded Iraq, set up an international provisional support system through the UN to provide services (security, education, roads, water, electricity, justice, etc) to transition to full local control over 20 years, they could have used it as a base to go after Al Queda -- as international criminals and to pressure other countries in the area to follow a program of reforms (instead of using them for black-ops 'renderings'?), it could have been a positive influence on the whole area, with the full international backing that we had going in to Afghanistan.To me, it is telling of the incompetence of the Botch Administration that they HAD in Afghanistan what they THOUGHT they would get in Iraq - and didn't know it.Enjoy.

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The "mission" has changed so many times in Iraq that it makes "Rosemary's Baby" head seem to stand still.But what we are left with today is a peacekeeping mission. After 5 years of war this is all that is left.The problem with this mission is that we are also one of the aggressors, so this mission is terminally compromised. We cannot accomplish the mission and nobody else can accomplish it as long as our troops remain there.Conclusion: get out, turn the keys over to the UN and say "take it or leave it" -- and then fund the UN mission (because it is our fault).That is my take on it. Should take about 6 months to implement.

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Their culture. The fundamentalists can use their religion as an excuse, but it is the culture that teaches.

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One has to wonder what American forces could accomplish that UN forces could not. Especially as they would not be encumbered with the problem of being one of the aggressors in the conflict.That raises the question of why American forces should stay. Some talk about our responsibility for destabilizing the country, but there is a point where we cannot be held responsible for the continued inter-sectarian war(s).The reality imh(ysa)o is that the conflict could not be worse with the departure of American forces and may even be better - one less target.What I see here is "Descent into a Maelstrom" and continued participation is pure folly.Of course I also think there should be prosecution of those that instigated this war.

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