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Message 5 of 242 (387152)
02-26-2007 3:21 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Heathen
02-26-2007 11:54 AM


From the CNN report of the event:
Stephen Phann, a biblical archeologist writes:
"How possible is it?" Pfann said. "On a scale of one through 10 -- 10 being completely possible -- it's probably a one, maybe a one and a half."
Can't this statement be made about any claim thats been made about the biblical jesus, including his (past) existence?

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Message 11 of 242 (387177)
02-26-2007 7:02 PM
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02-26-2007 11:54 AM


...DNA show the tomb is that of Jesus.
Analyzing the Y chromosome should prove quite interesting.

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Message 12 of 242 (387179)
02-26-2007 7:09 PM
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02-26-2007 6:28 PM


prophylactex writes:
How will we convice people to examine themselves when all they want is the comfort and security of a "liberal" and "intelligent" point of view?
And here I thought that it was unquestioning faith in the lord and total acceptance of jesus christ as one's savior that gave comfort and security. Boy, just when I was ready to convert you come along and ruin it for me!

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Message 15 of 242 (387183)
02-26-2007 7:43 PM
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02-26-2007 7:25 PM


...I hope Leo Dicaprio is in it!!
In the documentary or in the coffin?

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Message 104 of 242 (387709)
03-02-2007 4:55 AM


Whats in the coffins?
Getting back to the OP, it is not clear to me that any bodily remains were found in the coffins. Does anyone have any specific information on this? If remains were found and they could provide recoverable DNA, that DNA could be checked to see if it supports the relationships indicated by the inscriptions. Also, the DNA of the remains found in the coffin attributed to jesus (or jeshua) could be checked for possible divine origin: Human DNA has many pseudogenes inserted by past infectious agents; these should be absent from divine DNA. If the jesus coffin is occupied and the occupant is determined by his DNA to be of divine origin, we will finally be able to determine whether god is male or female.

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Message 115 of 242 (387768)
03-02-2007 3:43 PM
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03-02-2007 12:10 PM


Re: Whats in the coffins?
Almost every teaching about Jesus says He was 100% man.
Almost every teaching about Jesus says he performed miracles and it was the performance of these miracles that convinced the skeptical of his divine powers. Someone who is "100% man" cannot perform miracles. If the body, bones, blood residue, or any other potential source of DNA were actually discovered and the DNA analysis showed unique charactoristics, particularly the acquired defects I mentioned, this would be very compelling evidence that the soure was of divine origin. That's all I'm trying to say. Robin Cook's mystery novel "Seizure" considers the interesting implications of this possibility.
maybe you are being humorous?
My being humongous has nothing to do with the issue.

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Message 117 of 242 (387774)
03-02-2007 4:19 PM
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03-02-2007 3:50 PM


Re: Whats in the coffins?
Catholic teachings say that Jesus was both fully man and fully God. If one were to attempt to identify what his genome was then he would most likely be a clone. Since his conception was one of parthenogenisis.
According to catholic (and, of course, other christian)teachings, jesus was most certainly not a parthenote. He had a distinct, identified mother and a distinct, identified father.

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Message 129 of 242 (387838)
03-03-2007 2:50 AM
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03-02-2007 6:52 PM


Re: Whats in the coffins?
Whoa, there are literally thousands of people said to have performed miracles, and some, witnessed in our own time. Not one person has made claim to a divine origin or DNA.
Whoa onto thine own self. Mere human beings do not perform miracles. They are, if in a state of grace, the agents through which god performs miracles, or they intercede between other humans and god to petition god to grant miraculous answers to prayer. When a monk is seen to miraculously float through the air, it is not of his own volition or powers that he does so; it is through an act of god. Jesus, being god incarnate, is the direct agent of the miracles he performs. I am not insisting that jesus (the one that originated the religion) or any of his bodily fluids had divine DNA. I am merely suggesting it as a rational possibility that would allow one to determine if bodily remains are truly of divine origin. I say 'rational possibility' because all men (and women and children) since Adam have been cursed with sin and the punishment of disease, as exemplified by the bacterial and viral adduced pseudo-genes in the human genome. But, whether 100% or 93.675% human, jesus was delivered onto the earth free of sin and one would suspect, free of those pseudo-genes.

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