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Author Topic:   Standing Alone: the Great Pyramid
Dr Adequate
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Message 30 of 77 (387195)
02-26-2007 9:20 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Cold Foreign Object
02-23-2007 4:17 PM


Only the Great Pyramid has extensive ascending passages and other horizontal passages connected to them.
The remainder have no ascending passages and no network of passages as compared to the Great Pyramid.
The remainder have no ascending passages and no network of passages as compared to the Great Pyramid.
Based on the above evidence we conclude that the Great Pyramid was built by persons with ultra-intellect ...
How did Egypt lose the ability to erect marvelous ascending passages?
It does not take "ultra-intellect" to build sloping passages. It's not rocket science. Nor is it particularly "marvellous". There are lots of sloping passages in the world. There are others in Egypt: the use of sloping passages did not die out:
The Theban tombs of the 18th Dynasty are composed of three main architectural elements : a courtyard, a rock-cut chapel intended for the funerary cult, and one or several underground chambers where the coffin and the funerary equipment were deposited. These chambers, usually undecorated, are most often accessed by a deep shaft or a sloping passage dug into the hill. *

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Dr Adequate
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Message 31 of 77 (387197)
02-26-2007 9:49 PM
Reply to: Message 29 by Cold Foreign Object
02-26-2007 5:57 PM


Re: Who built the pyramids?
The rest of the Great Pyramid had zero writings on any of its interior walls or passages or chamber walls.
Again, how does a person explain this compared to all the other pyramids WHICH ARE COVERED WITH WRITINGS?
Not writing stuff is not evidence of an ultra-intellect. Anyone can not write hieroglyphics.
How did persons in 12,000 to 2,500 BC, that is persons who just emerged from the so called Stone Age build the Seventh Wonder of the World?
How? Out of stone.
They had not "just" emerged from the Stone Age; the pyramids were built a thousand years after the dawn of the Bronze Age. You might as well say that Europe is "just emerging" from the Black Death.
You can't have "cave men" and their immediate relatives suddenly building a world wonder as evolution says.
Obviously, "evolution" does not say that. Archaelogy, on the other hand, tells us that the pyramids were built by a civilized, literate people who'd been using metal for the past thousand years.

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Message 32 of 77 (387198)
02-26-2007 9:58 PM
Reply to: Message 29 by Cold Foreign Object
02-26-2007 5:57 PM


Re: Who built the pyramids?
When we assign a pyramid inch to equal one year and measure the number of inches from point #5, that is, from the benchmark date of 2141 BC the length between that date and the opening of the first ascending passage comes out to 1453 BC. Biblical scholars have always said that the Exodus, according to Biblical chronology occurred around 1446 BC. But the evidence here says it happened in 1453 BC. The GP tells us the true date because of how it was determined, in any case the mid-15th century is CONFIRMED.
So let's see if I've got this right: if you adjust the chronology of the Bible to fit the dimensions of the great Pyramid, you find the the chronology of the Bible then fits the dimensions of the Pyramid.
Now that's just spooky. Color me convinced.
The GP is physical evidence of the God of the Bible; didn't know any of this?
How could you since atheists and Darwinists "control" the world?
Well, someone's got to do it; and we're not convinced that it would be safe in your hands.

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Message 46 of 77 (387311)
02-27-2007 7:08 PM
Reply to: Message 39 by Cold Foreign Object
02-27-2007 3:09 PM


Re: A timeline
The builders of the GP knew that the Earth was round; Medieval Europe believed the Earth was flat.
IOW, ancient men were ultra-intelligent ...
Well, there's something a teensy bit wrong with your reasoning.
You know that the world is round; does that make you "ultra-intelligent"?
There is also something wrong with your facts. Medieval Europe was well aware that the world was round. The popular myth that they thought otherwise originates, it would seem, in a story for children about Columbus by Washinton Irving. The fact that the world was round had been known in Europe long even before the Christian era.

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Message 68 of 77 (387537)
03-01-2007 12:13 AM
Reply to: Message 66 by Cold Foreign Object
02-28-2007 5:52 PM


Re: Getting Back to the OP Issue
I have asked a simple question, which I will repeat: Based on the OP links showing the GP to have ascending passages and all the others have none; what is YOUR explanation? How come not even ONE other pyramid has what the GP has?
I find your explanation wanting and unsatisfying (to say the least).
We (= pyramidologists) conclude that this is prima facie evidence supporting the conclusion that Egypt did not build the GP (unlike all the others).
Right. It was built around the same time as the others, on the same site, from the same materials, taken from the same quarries, using the same techniques, in the same shape, with the same orientation, but it has ascending passages so it must have been built by a completely different set of people.
In the same way, although the Sydney Opera House otherwise has all the hallmarks of twentieth-century architecture, no other building has a roof like that, so it must have been built by space aliens.
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Message 74 of 77 (387686)
03-01-2007 11:50 PM
Reply to: Message 73 by Cold Foreign Object
03-01-2007 3:58 PM


Re: Getting Back to the OP Issue
There is much evidence which says the GP was built by Enoch circa 10,000 BC.
During the Upper Paleolithic? That's funny, I could have sworn that a few pages ago someone was telling us that "evolution" said that the Great Pyramid was built by "cavemen".
Oh look, it was you, post #29.
You can't have "cave men" and their immediate relatives suddenly building a world wonder as evolution says.
And now you want to date the building of the G.P. 7500 years earlier than scientists say it was built.
You asked, indeed:
How did persons in 12,000 to 2,500 BC, that is persons who just emerged from the so called Stone Age build the Seventh Wonder of the World?
And now you want to put the building of the G.P. in the Stone Age?
I find this a little strange.
Then how come no other pyramid has ascending passages or any passage system except the GP? No mummy was ever discovered; the coffer had no lid; no treasure room; and three granite plugs block the first ascending passage; and both the Queen's Chamber and Kings Chamber have AIR VENTS ...
The Pyramid of Khafre has a passage system. No mummy was ever found in the Pyramid of Khafre. All the treasure had been removed from the Pyramid of Khafre. Also, if you look at the pictures, you will see that Khafre's tomb was not covered with writing, as you have claimed in earlier posts was the case, but with much simpler designs.
And, could I remind you, they are built on the same site out of the same materials in the same shape.
The trivial differences between them are smaller than the differences by which I could "prove" that my house was built by a different civilization from my neighbor's.
... and when clean and clear the temperature in the King's Chamber remains at 68 degrees - the optimal temperature for man to exist in.
As determined how?
What temperature is it inside the Pyramid of Khafre?

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Message 76 of 77 (387892)
03-03-2007 1:32 PM
Reply to: Message 66 by Cold Foreign Object
02-28-2007 5:52 PM


The Pillar Of Enoch
The Egyptian Book of the Dead calls the GP the "pillar of Enoch." They admit that they did not build it.
OK, let's clear a few things up.
First of all, the Egyptian Book of the dead does not mention the "pillar of Enoch". Here is a link to the Egyptian Book of the Dead
Second, no ancient writer ever used the phrase "pillar of Enoch". This phrase was invented by Freemasons * to describe the pillars which the Jewish historian Josephus described in Book I ch. ii v iii of his Antiquities. *
Third, there is no other testimony for these pillars except Josephus.
Now let's look at what Josephus wrote.
Now this Seth, [Adam's third son] when he was brought up, and came to those years in which he could discern what was good, became a virtuous man; and as he was himself of an excellent character, so did he leave children behind him who imitated his virtues. All these proved to be of good dispositions. They also inhabited the same country without dissensions, and in a happy condition, without any misfortunes falling upon them, till they died. They also were the inventors of that peculiar sort of wisdom which is concerned with the heavenly bodies, and their order. And that their inventions might not be lost before they were sufficiently known, upon Adam's prediction that the world was to be destroyed at one time by the force of fire, and at another time by the violence and quantity of water, they made two pillars, the one of brick, the other of stone: they inscribed their discoveries on them both, that in case the pillar of brick should be destroyed by the flood, the pillar of stone might remain, and exhibit those discoveries to mankind; and also inform them that there was another pillar of brick erected by them. Now this remains in the land of Siriad to this day. *
Some points to note in the account of Josephus:
* Josephus does not use the term "pillar of Enoch".
* Josephus says that the children of Seth made pillars. He does not say that the pillars were pyramids.
* Pyramids are not pillars. Josephus knew the word "pyramids", which he uses in book 2 chapter 9 of his Antiquities*. If he wanted to say that they were pyramids, he could have. He didn't; he said that they were pillars.
* Josephus does not say that the pillars were in Egypt, but "in the land of Syriad".
* Josephus knows and uses the word "Egypt", to describe Egypt, as when he discusses the captivity of the Jews*. The word "Syriad" appears nowhere else in Josephus, nor, it would seem, in the entire Classical corpus, describing Egypt or otherwise.
* No matter how many sons Seth had, they could hardly have built the Great Pyramid all by themselves.
* The pillar of stone, according to Josephus, should contain astronomical information and information about the pillar of brick. The Great Pyramid doesn't.
Even on your showing, it doesn't. You've been doing the wrong numerology.
There are further problems for creationists.
The first is that according to this account the pyramid was before the Flood. According to most creationists, the Flood was the cause of geological strata. Why isn't the GP buried?
The second is that the sedimentary rocks from which the GP is constructed contain fossils.
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It's amazing how much wrongosity you've managed to cram into so few words.

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