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Author Topic:   How did animal get to isolated places after the flood?
NosyNed
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Message 175 of 194 (386749)
02-23-2007 11:35 AM
Reply to: Message 172 by riVeRraT
02-22-2007 9:31 AM


Re: What are the odds?
You are asking the wrong question.
We know that animals can cover varying distances over water by various means. The odds are neither zero or one but some other number that is closer to the low end than the high. But that is still not asking the right question.
Some floodist have proposed floating mats etc. for explaining the biodiversity we see. The question is: Given the rather random nature of floating around and the original random nature of what does and does not get on a mat what are the odds we'd see a distribution like what we see?
The odds are enormously, hugely, TEENY-TINY! To expect this process to sort animals based, among other things, on their genetics is absurd. That is absurd in the delusional, stupid, ridiculous, barking mad sense of the word absurd.

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NosyNed
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Message 177 of 194 (387110)
02-26-2007 10:35 AM
Reply to: Message 176 by riVeRraT
02-26-2007 10:05 AM


RR disagrees with ICR, AiG etc
That is why I have always thought that if it did happen, then it was a God thing. Even as a child I imagined creation being redone, if it happened.
Why would God supernaturally remove everything, the naturally put everything back?
It seems like a waste of time to try and figure it out.
What cracks me up even more is people who look to define the flood as a natural event, without God.
So, you and I have no argument. You disagree with AiG, ICR and all the so-called creation "scientists" who want something taught in schools.
You believe that God made the flood happen, used more miracles to rearrange the world afterward (even a whole new creation week) and then destroyed any evidence that the flood happened.
Fine with me if you want to believe that.

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NosyNed
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Message 188 of 194 (387362)
02-28-2007 10:20 AM
Reply to: Message 187 by riVeRraT
02-28-2007 10:12 AM


ONE planet RR
Well, we have evidence of life on one planet, but we don't have any evidence of any gods at all.
If your talking about the meteor that we think is from Mars, I think that evidence is about as highly subjective as all religions. I see no difference in the two.
LOL, Look down RR that is the planet that we have evidence about.
It is reasonable because we exist here. The same reason to wonder if a God exists or not.
Well, of course, as long as you recognize that the people of 2,000 years ago would consider us gods. You logic only holds if we are an example of gods.
It's not science, it's creation science.
You agree again it's not science; then why do they (and you) insist on having "science" in the name of whatever it is?
But if creation science was only formed to protect a religion, and not truely to seek if we were created or not, then it is all BS.
Are you prepared to explore the "if" in that sentence? We can assure you that it is, for sure, formed only to protect a religion -- actually not protect so much as to force it into schools and on other people. Would you like to demonstrate your interest in learning by starting a thread asking that question?

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NosyNed
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Message 192 of 194 (408856)
07-05-2007 11:05 AM
Reply to: Message 190 by riVeRraT
02-28-2007 6:06 PM


Creation -- yes, Creation Science - no
I think we are in agreement. If there is any real creation science in the sense that you seem to mean it it is science without any adjective in front.
All scientists struggle to understand how the world works. Some are believers as you are others not. The believers want to understand how their god created what we see.
Those self-styled "creation scientists" of AIG and ICR do not want to understand how God created everything. They want their ideas of how he should have created it to be taught as science.
As Jar says (who agrees with your post I'm sure) the AIG and ICR sort believe in a tiny, weak little God. One more like Zeus or Odin than the God that Jar and you believe in.

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