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Author Topic:   Standing Alone: the Great Pyramid
kuresu
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Message 5 of 77 (386825)
02-23-2007 9:58 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Cold Foreign Object
02-23-2007 4:17 PM


A timeline
your first link is for pyramids built at the same time, and gives no indication of timeline.
the second link has the same problems.
also, don't forget that the egyptians started to build tombs w/o the pyramids. such as King Tut's. also, don't forget the temples they built.
here's a timeline of egyptian history.
http://www.wsu.edu:8000/~dee/EGYPT/TIMELINE.HTM
Take note that the Great Pyramids (Khufu's) are of the second generation of pyramid building. they did not start off with the greatest--they had a learning curve.
Temples come later, as do the tombs. Some of these are also very complex, such as
Temple of Karnak:
Karnak - Wikipedia
in other words, the biggest piece missing in your puzzle is the timeline. oh, and egypt has something like 80 to 110 pyramidal structures.
finally, as to losing and gaining technology:
this seems to happen many times in history. one need only look at europe and see how much has been lost from the classical era (greek and roman empires) to the medieval ages to now. we lost a lot of technical know-how from the classical to the medieval ages. since about the 1400s (and even more so during the 1600s onward) we've recovered and advanced.
oh, and I love the racism in your post
persons with ultra-intellect (= descendants of Adam)
and
failed attempted copies built by North African sun worshippers
you disgust me.

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kuresu
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Message 28 of 77 (387079)
02-25-2007 10:22 PM
Reply to: Message 24 by Cold Foreign Object
02-25-2007 6:39 PM


Re: A timeline
I'm so glad you focused solely on a single point of my post, and did not even disagree with the rest of it.
care to actually address the meat of my post?

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kuresu
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Message 34 of 77 (387207)
02-27-2007 12:26 AM
Reply to: Message 33 by Hyroglyphx
02-27-2007 12:23 AM


Re: Who built the pyramids?
basically that the Egyptians had nothing to do with the design of the pyramids-- that Egyptians modeled their pyramids after the GP...?
don't forget, the GP is not the first pyramid. There were several built before the GP.
that's the biggest flaw in Herepton's argument, and one that I addressed and that he has yet to respond to.

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kuresu
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Message 38 of 77 (387275)
02-27-2007 2:15 PM
Reply to: Message 36 by Jon
02-27-2007 2:38 AM


Re: Who built the pyramids?
Why do you believe that we can go from Roman Gladiator to the moon in 2000 years,
we still have the roman gladiator. what do you think those massive stadiums are where people beat each other senseless (football, hockey, boxing, wrestling, rugby, soccer, baseball, NASCAR, etc)?
some things never change.

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kuresu
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Message 43 of 77 (387292)
02-27-2007 4:28 PM
Reply to: Message 39 by Cold Foreign Object
02-27-2007 3:09 PM


Re: A timeline . . . is important
Timeline is irrelevant in this context SINCE we are only attempting to explain why the GP has extensive passages and all the rest have NONE.
timeline is important. why? here's your earlier statement in the OP:
Based on the above evidence we conclude that the Great Pyramid was built by persons with ultra-intellect (= descendants of Adam) and all the others are failed attempted copies built by North African sun worshippers
I've bolded the important part. why is it important? Have you ever tried to make a copy of something that doesn't exist? It's impossible. You're positing that the GP was built prior to any other pyramid (necessary in order to make the "failed" copies). There are pyramids built prior to the GP (take a look at the links in:
http://EvC Forum: Standing Alone: the Great Pyramid -->EvC Forum: Standing Alone: the Great Pyramid
oh, and they had a tendency to get rid of the architect--you know, to prevent tomb raiding (not that it worked, but). If you threw away the architect you designed the Saturn V-5 (which I notice no prior to the 20th century even attempted, much less had the knowledge to do so) every time you started anew, you'd get different, and sometimes inferior S V-5s.
not that you'll notice the importance of a timeline.

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kuresu
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Message 50 of 77 (387372)
02-28-2007 11:19 AM
Reply to: Message 48 by Jon
02-28-2007 11:08 AM


Re: A timeline
whites aren't the only ones who are, or can be, racist. tell me, if you put one race above another, like Herepton did (in this case, descendants of Adam), then you are being racist. point simple.
racism is also not just solely based on color (though it is with us in America).

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kuresu
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Message 57 of 77 (387432)
02-28-2007 2:09 PM
Reply to: Message 51 by Jon
02-28-2007 11:23 AM


Re: A timeline
hmm, so the fact that he alludes to two different races (descendants of adam and north african sun worshippers) doesn't strike you as racist (considering that one is thought to be superior)?
Here's what he says in the OP:
persons with ultra-intellect (= descendants of Adam)
are failed attempted copies built by North African sun worshippers.
obviously, these are two different races, and one is superior--that of Adam. why is it obvious? because if the sun-worshippers could build succesful copies, they must have that "ultra-intellect" that ray alludes to. they don't, so they aren't descendants of Adam. yes, his logic is really screwy here, but hey, this is ray we're talking about.
that you can't see the racism is striking.

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kuresu
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Message 61 of 77 (387438)
02-28-2007 2:22 PM
Reply to: Message 60 by Cold Foreign Object
02-28-2007 2:21 PM


Re: A timeline
and blacks can't be racist? oh come on, grow up and face the real world, ray.

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