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Message 1 of 77 (386785)
02-23-2007 4:17 PM


Click on these links and view the interiors of the pyramids in Egypt:
http://www.egyptarchive.co.uk/his_html/smyth_4.html
http://www.egyptarchive.co.uk/his_html/smyth_5.html
Only the Great Pyramid has extensive ascending passages and other horizontal passages connected to them.
The remainder have no ascending passages and no network of passages as compared to the Great Pyramid.
Based on the above evidence we conclude that the Great Pyramid was built by persons with ultra-intellect (= descendants of Adam) and all the others are failed attempted copies built by North African sun worshippers.
If you disagee then how do you explain the interior differences?
How did Egypt lose the ability to erect marvelous ascending passages?
I seek satisfying explanations.
Ray

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Message 4 of 77 (386823)
02-23-2007 9:31 PM
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The great pyramid was originally built by Ra, a technologically advance immortal alien who posed as a god to the primitives of Earth.
The Egyptians are correct that a Deity oversaw construction, but we know that the Deity was the Biblical God based on the interior matching the foundational claims written in the Bible.
The great pyramid itself acted as a landing pad for Ra's mothership.
The land of Sirius (Africa, North Africa, Dogans) insist a divine-like person came from the star of the same name. How did these primitives know of a star that cannot be seen by the naked eye and was subsequently discovered to exist by modern astronomy? Genesis 6 says "the sons of God" AKA "intelligent beings" came down from heaven and conducted business on the Earth. That business, among other things, was the labor used to erect the GP. Both accounts confirm said event happened and both give important details of what may have happened in toto.
After a rebellion on Earth and Ra left, later pharoahs wanted to immitate Ra so they had other pyramids built.
Yes, the rebellion of the tower of Babel.
However, since they could only rely on what they remembered when Ra was here, the later pyramids were not as sophisticated.
Yes, the ensuing great flood separated them from their progenitors and their abilities.
Ray

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Message 21 of 77 (387051)
02-25-2007 5:57 PM
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Re: Who built the pyramids?
For one thing, the pyramids are replete with heiroglyphics.
Negative.
The Great Pyramid contains no heiroglyphics within, unlike all the others. Since it became a tourist attraction it has been vandalized.
Again, the GP stands alone.
Ray

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Message 22 of 77 (387052)
02-25-2007 5:59 PM
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Re: Who built the pyramids?
double post; content deleted - sorry.
Ray
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Message 24 of 77 (387058)
02-25-2007 6:39 PM
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Re: A timeline
Kuresu:
Adam was dark-skinned or black. The mark of Cain was "whiteness."
Ray

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Message 25 of 77 (387059)
02-25-2007 6:43 PM
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Re: Who built the pyramids?
I will answer your post tomorrow.
Look forward to your reply.
Ray

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Message 29 of 77 (387168)
02-26-2007 5:57 PM
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Re: Who built the pyramids?
No heirolgyphs inside? How about on it?
None at all unlike all the other pyramids in Egypt.
The only "exception" is SCANT writing above the King's Chamber. This "writing" has been proven a forgery.
The rest of the Great Pyramid had zero writings on any of its interior walls or passages or chamber walls.
Again, how does a person explain this compared to all the other pyramids WHICH ARE COVERED WITH WRITINGS?
Concerning the exterior there is a very small area of writing above the entrance which was originally part of the interior UNTIL the outer casing stones were removed by Muslims over the centuries to build their Mosques in and around the Middle East.
In toto the GP covers 13-1/2 acres and NO heiroglyphics found. All other pyramids are literally covered from head to toe.
Because Josephus claimed that Seth and his immediate descendants and contemporaries inscribed their knowledge, particularly astronomical discoveries, on the pillars. Or are you saying that Josephus' account has nothing to do with what you are mentioning?
Josephus did say what you have him saying above.
Josephus SAID that Sethites left two monuments; one made of brick (not in existence anymore) and the other made of stone in the land of Siriad. The latter is referring to the GP.
Josephus was not talking about bas-reliefs or inscriptions per se, he was talking about structures. Josephus is good evidence for the real builders of the GP. The GP existed before Egyptian civilization was founded. Thus far the evidence of the interior not matching any other pyramid and the evidence of no heiroglyphics unlike the others; and Josephus identifying the real builders falsifies the ridiculous assertions of atheist Egyptologists who are also Darwinists.
You give a small description concerning the differences between the interior of the pyramids compared to the interior of other Egyptian structures.
The interior differences are massive. The GP has ascending passges; the rest have NONE. The GP has no heiroglyphics and the rest are literally covered. Thus far, these two points alone support my contention that the GP was not built by Egyptian intellect - do you agree?
And then you say that it must have been built by ultra-intelligent descendants of Adam. For starters, every one is a descendant of Adam....
Not according the evolutionists. They believe Adam never existed and that mankind descended from an ape ancestor. How did persons in 12,000 to 2,500 BC, that is persons who just emerged from the so called Stone Age build the Seventh Wonder of the World?
You can't have "cave men" and their immediate relatives suddenly building a world wonder as evolution says. The Bible says mankind BEGAN ultra-intelligent (Adam). The GP falsifies the evolutionary scenario and supports the Biblical scenario for the origin of mankind.
Secondly, you haven't explained why you think it is, presumably, direct descendants of Adam.
Based on what Josephus said and based on the Egyptian Book of the Dead calling the GP "the pillar of Enoch"; and based on other massive evidence we know the GP was built by Enoch.
Now, don't get me wrong. I'm a Bible student and I have no aversion to something like this if it is true. But if such an investigation is to shed any light on the subject, I think we need to find some qualifiers for it. What exactly has led you to this conclusion?
Glad you asked.
Foundational CLAIMS of the Bible:
1. Mankind is on a downward path to hell under the influence of Satan since the Fall of Adam & Eve.
2. The first attempt by God to save mankind from this downward path was the revelation of Mosaic Law; typified by deliverance from Egypt; miracle of the Red Sea parting.
3. The next attempt is the death and Resurrection of Christ and the age of grace and freedom from the law and the Church age.
Great Pyramid of Giza Research Association
The above link will SHOW the above claims; "written" in the physical passage ways. All you need is someone to point it out to you as I am now going to do.
Find point #1 and point #14.
These two points correspond to the long descending passage; and they typify mankinds descent into the pit (hell) under the influence of Satan. When we extend the passage out into space it directly intersects with the Dragon Star also known as Thuban. THIS star WAS the North Star WHEN the GP was built and it is the only north star which aligns to the passage way.
Find point #4 on the descending passage. This point marks "scored lines" engraved into the passage wall counter to the grain of the masonry. This told archaeologists that the builder wanted to mark something since the lines could have no other meaning. When we extend these lines out into space they intersect with the Pleiades and Orion mentioned in the book of Job.
Scholars then wondered; WHEN did Thuban and Orion intersect with their respective markings in the GP?
British astronomical authorities have determined that ONLY IN 2141 BC did Thuban perfectly align with the descending passage and Orion align with the scored lines; therefore, scholars concluded that point #4 = 2141 BC.
2141 BC becomes a benchmark date. We are not saying anything significant happened on this date; rather we are saying that this date becomes the starting point of a prophetic chronology.
Thus far, though, we have the Biblical claim of mankind on a downward slide to hell under the influence of Satan corroborated.
Find point #5.
This point is where the first ascending passage extends out from the descending passage; and the passage typifies the rescue of the Hebrews from Egypt's bondage. Please notice a blackened area at the mouth of the ascending passage. This denotes 3 granite plugs blocking the passage and they are still there today. We know this because early explorers blasted their way around them. These three plugs typify that mankind cannot begin an upward walk with God via Mosaic Law unless a miracle of deliverance takes place (parting of the Red Sea).
When we assign a pyramid inch to equal one year and measure the number of inches from point #5, that is, from the benchmark date of 2141 BC the length between that date and the opening of the first ascending passage comes out to 1453 BC. Biblical scholars have always said that the Exodus, according to Biblical chronology occurred around 1446 BC. But the evidence here says it happened in 1453 BC. The GP tells us the true date because of how it was determined, in any case the mid-15th century is CONFIRMED.
A pyramid inch = 1,000th of an inch longer than the British inch = the true length of the British inch which has lost 1,000th over the centuries.
A pyramid inch = 1,500,000,000; that is one five hundred millionth of the polar diameter of the Earth. Based on NASA determination of the polar diameter of the Earth; and if we break that length into 500,000,000 equal parts = 1,000th of an inch longer than the current British inch. This is actually called the polar diameter inch. This is the inch we are talking about = the pyramid inch. The point is that the only measuring unit which fits the GP is the polar diameter inch which is only one thousandth of an inch longer than the accepted British inch today.
How did Britain get the polar diameter inch and how did the builders of the GP know the exact polar dimensions of a "flat earth" in ancient Egypt?
It is the best evidence proving that the so called Lost Tribes settled in Britian after escaping Assyrian bondage. But this is another subject.
Go back and acquaint yourself with the first ascending passage. We know it is a narrow passage that a person MUST bend over in order to ascend. This upward climb while stooped over corresponds to mankind's ascent under the rigors of Mosaic Law.
The first ascending passage ends at point #7 or where the next passage dramatically juts upward and where a horizontal passage connects.
If we measure the distance between 2141 BC and where point #7 is; that is where the passage ceases its narrow constraints = 33 AD.
What happpened in 33 AD?
Christ was crucified and Resurrected; typified in the Grand Gallery which is the name of the expanded ascending passage. It also typifies the age of grace; man does not have to stoop under Mosaic law in order to walk with God.
The horizontal Queen's Chamber passage typifies the Jew and their eligibility to always recognize Jesus if they will walk back to the Grand Gallery and walk with God by faith and not by the constraints of law.
The trifold area around point #7; that is the sudden passage expansion is 33 AD if we assign a polar diameter inch to one year. The length of inches between the opening of the first ascending passage and the sudden expansion comes out to 33 AD.
Isaiah 19:19,20
In that day shall there be an altar to the LORD in the midst of the land of Egypt, and a pillar at the border thereof to the LORD.
And it shall be for a sign and for a witness unto the LORD of hosts in the land of Egypt: for they shall cry unto the LORD because of the oppressors, and he shall send them a saviour, and a great one, and he shall deliver them.
Only the GP sits in the middle of the Nile-Delta quadrant, which is ***ALSO*** the border between Upper and Lower Egypt.
http://www.egyptarchive.co.uk/his_html/smyth_20.html
pyramid scripture
Imagine that; the height of the GP = the numeric value of the Biblical verses which speaks of it!
Read this link which contains many source cites of evidence presented. I am "WILLOWevcTREE."
Oops! We ran into some problems. | Internet Infidels Discussion Board
The GP is physical evidence of the God of the Bible; didn't know any of this?
How could you since atheists and Darwinists "control" the world?
Ray
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Message 39 of 77 (387279)
02-27-2007 3:09 PM
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02-23-2007 9:58 PM


Re: A timeline
your first link is for pyramids built at the same time, and gives no indication of timeline.
the second link has the same problems.
Negative.
Both links were posted to show the interiors of the pyramids; that the interior of the GP has no similarities to any other. Its not a matter of opinion. I then ask: How do we explain this fact?
Timeline is irrelevant in this context SINCE we are only attempting to explain why the GP has extensive passages and all the rest have NONE.
Logically, we say that this evidence supports the claim that the GP was not built by Egyptians (unlike all the others). The Suez Canal was built by the British even though it is in Egypt.
finally, as to losing and gaining technology:
this seems to happen many times in history. one need only look at europe and see how much has been lost from the classical era (greek and roman empires) to the medieval ages to now. we lost a lot of technical know-how from the classical to the medieval ages. since about the 1400s (and even more so during the 1600s onward) we've recovered and advanced.
Excellent point which I agree with.
The builders of the GP knew that the Earth was round; Medieval Europe believed the Earth was flat.
IOW, ancient men were ultra-intelligent which supports the Biblical claim that mankind was created intelligent; and falisfies the evolutionary claim that man steadily progressed from an ape into a cave man and then into an ancient and then into modern man.
Intelligence and knowledge undulation falsifies the myth of human evolution.
Any open minded and objective investigation of the GP must conclude human evolution to be exactly what it is: the atheist creation myth.
Ray

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Message 40 of 77 (387281)
02-27-2007 3:26 PM
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02-27-2007 2:38 AM


Re: Who built the pyramids?
The Egyptians were not swamp monkeys! They knew very well how to build ascending passages....
Then how come only the GP has them? How come not even one other pyramid has an ascending passage?
The real question is why are you evading this question? It appears you cannot refute. It also appears you are completely ignorant about archaeology and the ANE. I expect participants to know their place here.
The span you give here is about 10,000 years. This is certainly enough time for civilization to develop. Why do you believe that we can go from Roman Gladiator to the moon in 2000 years, but can't go from caves to pyramids in 10,000?
The span I gave is the range that scholars believe the GP was built. If we take the high (10,000 BC) then this places the erection squarely in the Stone Age!
The builders of the GP knew the Earth was round; ancient Egypt believed the Earth was flat; that Ra evolved around a flat Earth. The builders of the GP knew THE EXACT polar diameter of the Earth; modern man did not know the exact figure until 1957 Sputnik artificial orbiting satellite measured the Earth = human evolution is falsified.
I'd like you to point this out to me. And then, I'd like you to explain what the Book of the Dead is, as I think you are completely full of shit and in no way understanding the Book of the Dead, or what it is for.
Like I said; if you are ignorant about basic stuff like the Egyptian Book of the Dead then you should not participate. As for your invective we know that this is what persons say who are angered by the evidence and cannot refute.
Ray

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Message 55 of 77 (387429)
02-28-2007 1:49 PM
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02-27-2007 6:28 PM


Getting Back to the OP Issue
The difference between an ascending and a descending passage is the direction in which you traverse them. So it is hard to say that it is significant.
First, let me say, thanks for addressing the narrow focus of the OP. I departed from that focus to give Nemesis_ Juggernaut a overview of Pyramidology.
The OP links show pyramid interiors; only the GP has an extensive passage system that includes ascending passages; ALL the others depicted have NONE.
How do you explain this enormous disparity given that you hold the view that all the pyramids were built by Egyptians?
Why is there not ONE pyramid that comes close to the GP IF Egypt built them all?
If we can answer this question by saying that "I have a point" then it will be appreciated.
Ray

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Message 56 of 77 (387431)
02-28-2007 2:04 PM
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Re: couple of qs
Hi Brian:
Good to see you.
Tell me, why does the Bible never mention the great pyramid?
Of course it does.
Isaiah 19:19,20
In that day shall there be an altar to the LORD in the midst of the land of Egypt, and a pillar at the border thereof to the LORD.
And it shall be for a sign and for a witness unto the LORD of hosts in the land of Egypt: for they shall cry unto the LORD because of the oppressors, and he shall send them a saviour, and a great one, and he shall deliver them.
What sits exactly in the center of the fan shaped Nile-Delta Quadrant ***AND*** on "the border thereof" in the land of Egypt?
The verse supplies unique geographic cross-identification: In the MIDST of Egypt AND at the "border thereof."
http://www.egyptarchive.co.uk/his_html/smyth_20.html
The only object that sits in these two locations is the GP; as it is ALSO on the border between Upper and Lower AND in the midst.
pyramid scripture
Ray

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Message 58 of 77 (387433)
02-28-2007 2:12 PM
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Re: Who built the pyramids?
double post; content deleted - sorry.
Ray
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Message 59 of 77 (387434)
02-28-2007 2:12 PM
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Re: Who built the pyramids?
In the Table of nations in Genesis, which country does Mizraim represent?
Egypt.
He was a son of Ham and the person who drove back the Nile waters so that Egyptian civilization could commence.
Is there a difference between modern day Egypt and Biblical day Egypt?
Not really.
Ray

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Message 60 of 77 (387437)
02-28-2007 2:21 PM
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Re: A timeline
I already told you that Adam was black and the mark of Cain was your color of skin - white boy.
http://www.quibbles-n-bits.com/archives/bomber/kkk.gif
Ray Martinez
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Message 64 of 77 (387476)
02-28-2007 5:18 PM
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Re: couple of qs
In that day shall there be an altar to the LORD in the midst of the land of Egypt
Brian writes:
This is something that is yet to happen Ray. Read the whole chapter, it is an oracle foretelling a future event.
Isaiah, is, of course, a major prophet, BUT the office of prophet does not always mean that the words he speaks is future; prophet simply denotes the person who speaks for the Deity.
"that day" refers to the future days of "a saviour, and a great one, and he shall deliver them" (verse 20).
That is, in the days of the legacy of the Saviour (= the Church age; the last days).
It is only in these last days that the GP has been decoded since the science could not be understood until the 20th century.
Ray

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