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Message 6 of 111 (387677)
03-01-2007 9:10 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Phat
03-01-2007 4:02 PM

Consider others better than yourself

Yes, Mark 9:35 does go that way.

If any man desire to be first, the same shall be last of all, and servant of all.

But then equality among all is promoted, such as in Mark 12:31

Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

This doesn't indicate considering other better, but merely equal. If you did love your neighbor more than yourself, you would be breaking this commandment.

Then, we have the idea of considering other worse than yourself, such as in 1 Cor 16:22

If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maranatha.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't anathema mean banished or cursed? How can you banish or curse someone, if you wouldn't want that on yourself? Surely this would be considering another to be worse than yourself?

Turn the other cheek

Completely useless strategy in game theory. Doesn't work - you get royally screwed. However, I can't see it contradicted anywhere in the New Testament.

The wisdom of the world is foolishness to God

Yes, 1 Cor 3:18-19:

Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise. For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God.

This means then, that those philosophers and scientists we see debating creation (on both sides mind you) are fools.

But in Ephesians 5:15, it says this:

See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise.

And Psalms 5:5 says this:

The foolish shall not stand in thy sight.

So, if "wise in the way of the world = foolish", then "wise in the way of the world = bad", so Christians should not be going to school and getting degrees. Much like Bertrand Russell said: ""So far as I can remember, there is not one word in the Gospels in praise of intelligence."

Whatever you do unto the least of these you do to me

Well yes, I can't see this contradicted any more than the first one you gave (in that banishing non-believers isn't nice), but it does also have some problems with the cruelty of the OT.

Anyway, you said I can have other scriptures, so I'd like to discuss the inerrancy of these two scriptures

2 Thessalonians 3:6
"Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly..."

2 Thessalonians 3:14-15
"And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed. Yet count him not as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother."

How does one 'admonish as a brother', without keeping company and with withdrawing? To 'keep company' is to be friends with and to withdraw means to remove yourself from their presence but, even though Jesus kept company with sinners, Christians must somehow admonish the unbelievers or bad Christians, without being their friend or even going near them. How, exactly?

"And, lo, a great beast did stand before me, having seven heads, and on each head were there seven mouths, and in each mouth were there seventy times seven teeth. For truly there were seven times seven times seven times seventy teeth, meaning there were. . . okay, carry the three, adding twenty. . . plus that extra tooth on the third mouth of the sixth head. . . Well, there were indeed a great many teeth" - The Revelation of St. Bryce the Long-Winded

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