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Author Topic:   Should Evolution and Creation be Taught in School?
crashfrog
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Message 301 of 308 (388151)
03-04-2007 9:05 PM
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03-04-2007 6:40 PM


Re: Non-public schools are not required to teach evolution.
(I believe photons are much faster than 186K-miles/sec.)

Based on what evidence? And if that's true, why is it that we've never observed a photon travelling faster than that speed?

You have a lot of ideas that don't bear any connection to the real world.


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crashfrog
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Message 302 of 308 (388152)
03-04-2007 9:09 PM
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03-04-2007 9:00 PM


Re: Young Earth is simply Willful ignorance.
If it is not plausible fact as you say, noone will waste their time teaching it.

Nobody is. Does that tell you something, perhaps?


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Message 303 of 308 (388154)
03-04-2007 9:11 PM
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03-04-2007 9:05 PM


Re: Non-public schools are not required to teach evolution.
quote:
Based on what evidence? And if that's true, why is it that we've never observed a photon travelling faster than that speed?

You have a lot of ideas that don't bear any connection to the real world.



Electrons have been observes to go very close to C, but photons are likely too fast to be seen going places. Since light is either made of electrons or photon then light is either at the speed of C or much faster. If light is electrons, then everyone is wrong.

I very much doubt light is loose electrons, but I could be wrong.


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crashfrog
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Message 304 of 308 (388156)
03-04-2007 9:21 PM
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03-04-2007 9:11 PM


Re: Non-public schools are not required to teach evolution.
Electrons have been observes to go very close to C, but photons are likely too fast to be seen going places.

In fact, measuring the speed of light is so easy, it's regularly done in class by undergraduate physics majors. All it takes is some mirrors. In fact, you can do it at home with a microwave and some chocolate:

http://superpositioned.com/articles/2006/03/09/measure-the-speed-of-light-with-chips

It's easy to measure the speed of light, and every time it'd done, they get the same result. What measurements have you done that lead you to believe it's faster?

Since light is either made of electrons or photon then light is either at the speed of C or much faster.

Light is known not to be electrons. You're really just making this up as you go along, aren't you?


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Message 305 of 308 (388158)
03-04-2007 9:25 PM
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03-04-2007 9:00 PM


Re: Young Earth is simply Willful ignorance.

The worldwide flood was not dependent on any DNA bottlenecks. Rather bottlenecks would prevent a good outcome from a flood which is described in genesis.

Genetic bottlenecks are what would be seen in the genes IF the Flood had ever happened.

DNA became limited by change in atmosphere, and inbreeding became a problem.

Sorry but there is NO indication of any major changes in at least the last in atmosphere. And there is absolute proof that there have been insignificant changes in genetics of humans, plants and animals or in the atmosphere going back over 6000 years. Check out Oetzi who if the Genesis Myths were true, lived at the time Adam would have been alive.

I think you are overeacting. If it is not plausible fact as you say, noone will waste their time teaching it. You also have failed to show how genetics can be random. Since the tools for decoding are in the organism and since 'primates' are not like bugs, they could not have speciated into human beings. There is no mechanism in the sperm of apes and primates to suggest the ability to speciate.

Good Lord. How much misinformation can you stuff into one paragraph?

There is NOTHING in there that is not simply nonsense.


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fooj
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Message 306 of 308 (388159)
03-04-2007 9:25 PM
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03-04-2007 9:21 PM


Re: Non-public schools are not required to teach evolution.
quote:
In fact, measuring the speed of light is so easy, it's regularly done in class by undergraduate physics majors. All it takes is some mirrors.

C is actually the speed of electromagnetic wave propagation. If the electron makes photons by decaying, that suggests photons are much faster than an electron which would be C. I don't make these things up; some just don't understand the facts well.

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Message 307 of 308 (388160)
03-04-2007 9:28 PM
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03-04-2007 9:11 PM


Oh, dear God Almighty. Will someone please close this thread?


Actually, if their god makes better pancakes, I'm totally switching sides. -- Charley the Australopithecine

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Message 308 of 308 (388161)
03-04-2007 9:30 PM
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03-04-2007 9:25 PM


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