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Zawi
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Message 91 of 204 (388877)
03-08-2007 1:57 PM
Reply to: Message 90 by Omnivorous
03-08-2007 10:02 AM


Re: Omni needs to slow down?
I guessed you were good Omni from some of your chess posts here .
Omni opened with a Sicilian against me (I think). When the opponent does any openings other than King’s pawn or Queen’s pawn, I get worried for my health . I’ve never done a Sicilian, but I tried it in a game Tusko challenged me to, and I have no idea what to do with it, haha. It’s caused me to become very cramped behind my pawns, whereas Omni's donee everything right with the Sicilian so far (I think).
My other game, with Kurusu, isn’t going too hot either. I’ve made some genuine, bonafied mistakes in that one.
But who cares, it’s great to be playing chess again .

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Omnivorous
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Message 92 of 204 (388880)
03-08-2007 2:15 PM
Reply to: Message 91 by Zawi
03-08-2007 1:57 PM


Re: Omni needs to slow down?
Zawinul writes:
But who cares, it’s great to be playing chess again.
I feel the same way, Zawinul: I enjoy winning, but I know I learn more losing, so no game is a total loss.
And the renewed focus on tactics has already made me a better East Coast rush hour driver .

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truthlover
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Message 93 of 204 (388904)
03-08-2007 4:37 PM
Reply to: Message 91 by Zawi
03-08-2007 1:57 PM


Re: Omni needs to slow down?
Omni opened with a Sicilian against me (I think).
Dragon Sicilian, to be specific. I like to play that defense, though I really don't play it well unless I manage to survive into the middle game without choking myself to death on my own pawns. If I'm going to play it, I really ought to properly study it sometime, but it's not high enough on my priority list.
Note: I'm being very careful not to comment on the game, not even as to who I think is winning, playing well, or anything. If anyone else responds to those who are playing, you need to do the same.

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nyenye
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Message 94 of 204 (388906)
03-08-2007 4:43 PM
Reply to: Message 76 by bluegenes
03-05-2007 6:49 AM


Re: Tournament Challenge Order
Moo, chomps rabbit >=D

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Omnivorous
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Message 95 of 204 (388917)
03-08-2007 6:04 PM
Reply to: Message 93 by truthlover
03-08-2007 4:37 PM


Re: Omni needs to slow down?
truthlover writes:
Dragon Sicilian, to be specific. I like to play that defense, though I really don't play it well unless I manage to survive into the middle game without choking myself to death on my own pawns. If I'm going to play it, I really ought to properly study it sometime, but it's not high enough on my priority list.
I had a friend long ago who claimed that if you don't know 25 major opening lines 20 moves deep, you're wasting your time--I don't have the patience for that.
It (Sicilian Dragon) takes a high tolerance for the closed position, but there is always the bright promise of an explosive liberation . I seem to play (and fight) best as a counterpuncher, so I tend to favor closed positions when playing black: as a long-haired reluctant streetfighter, I had to be hit before I was dangerous .
I have a long row to hoe before I'm back in playing trim...but darn this is fun!

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Phat
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Message 96 of 204 (389029)
03-10-2007 10:15 AM
Reply to: Message 95 by Omnivorous
03-08-2007 6:04 PM


darn this is fun!
I think its fun also....even though I am having my teeth handed back to me on a platter!
There are at least two or three of you who know your chess!
Maybe after the tournament you can teach me a few moves...or is the way a person learns through trial and error?
At any rate, after our tournament is done we might discuss chess strategy. I need it!

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riVeRraT
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Message 97 of 204 (389039)
03-10-2007 11:26 AM


riVeRraT has won, black resigned.

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 98 of 204 (389045)
03-10-2007 12:06 PM
Reply to: Message 97 by riVeRraT
03-10-2007 11:26 AM


Re: riVeRraT has won, black resigned.
Once you Queened your pawn, there was no way I was going to come out of there alive.
Good game. Who do you play next? Or is that all pending?
BTW, have you discovered the "analyze" feature yet? You can analyze each move that we made from beginning to end. Its a great feature. I suggest you take a gander at it if you haven't already done so.
Edited by nemesis_juggernaut, : edit to add

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riVeRraT
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From: NY USA
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Message 99 of 204 (389129)
03-10-2007 11:16 PM
Reply to: Message 98 by Hyroglyphx
03-10-2007 12:06 PM


Re: riVeRraT has won, black resigned.
I am not sure who I play next.
Yes, I was checking out the analyze feature, it is good to use, and refresh your memory between moves, since some moves can be days apart.
I thought I blew it when I gave up my rook, just didn't see that one.
You made me sweat near the end.
"gg" - means good game!

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riVeRraT
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Message 100 of 204 (389549)
03-14-2007 8:08 AM
Reply to: Message 96 by Phat
03-10-2007 10:15 AM


Re: darn this is fun!
At any rate, after our tournament is done we might discuss chess strategy. I need it!
What helped me greatly years ago, was just reading books on it.
There are books on every piece, and how to move them. There's books on openings, middle game, and end games.
Each piece is extremely powerful, but only if you understand it's capabilities, and how to capitalize on them.
So wheres the second round?????
Here are the games in one post:
http://gameknot.com/chess.pl?bd=6856547&chlg=y Jon + Kuresu
http://gameknot.com/chess.pl?bd=6861404&r=704 Zawinul (white) vs. Omnivorous (black)
http://gameknot.com/chess.pl?bd=6864163&r=46 Phat and tusko
http://gameknot.com/chess.pl?bd=6864950&r=927 Riverrat versus Nem Juggs
http://gameknot.com/chess.pl?bd=6861274&r=984 anglagard vs catsci
http://gameknot.com/chess.pl?bd=6872705&r=358 Truthlover + Tudwell
http://gameknot.com/chess.pl?bd=6885121&r=450 Nyeusigrube v. eratic
So far we got
+ Jon
+ Kuresu
|
+ Phat
+ Tusko
|
+ Zawinul
+ Omnivorous
|
+ Anglagard----------------Anglagard
+ Catholic Scientist
|
+ RiverRat------------------Riverrat
+ Nem. Jug.
|
+ Truthlover----------------Truthlover
+ Tudwell
|
+ Nyeusigrube
+ Eratic
Edited by riVeRraT, : added games

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Zawi
Member (Idle past 3651 days)
Posts: 126
From: UK
Joined: 12-02-2004


Message 101 of 204 (389596)
03-14-2007 2:00 PM


Sorry to those I've been playing against, I was quite busy the last three days. But I've finally made my moves

  
Tusko
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Posts: 615
From: London, UK
Joined: 10-01-2004


Message 102 of 204 (389746)
03-15-2007 11:36 AM
Reply to: Message 100 by riVeRraT
03-14-2007 8:08 AM


Re: darn this is fun!
Oh.. this is exciting, I'm in the next round. So what happens next... will the winner of Jon/Kuresu challenge me? I'd better check out the opposition...
+ Jon
+ Kuresu
|
+ Phat
+ Tusko--------------------Tusko
|
+ Zawinul
+ Omnivorous
|
+ Anglagard----------------Anglagard
+ Catholic Scientist
|
+ RiverRat------------------Riverrat
+ Nem. Jug.
|
+ Truthlover----------------Truthlover
+ Tudwell
|
+ Nyeusigrube
+ Eratic

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Zawi
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Posts: 126
From: UK
Joined: 12-02-2004


Message 103 of 204 (389770)
03-15-2007 1:12 PM
Reply to: Message 102 by Tusko
03-15-2007 11:36 AM


Two more games to go til the quarter finals...
Good game Omni . Nine times out of ten I'm sure you would've beaten me!
+ Jon
+ Kuresu
|
+ Phat
+ Tusko--------------------Tusko
|
+ Zawinul------------------Zawinul
+ Omnivorous
|
+ Anglagard----------------Anglagard
+ Catholic Scientist
|
+ RiverRat------------------Riverrat
+ Nem. Jug.
|
+ Truthlover----------------Truthlover
+ Tudwell
|
+ Nyeusigrube
+ Eratic
Edited by Zawi, : No reason given.

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truthlover
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Posts: 1548
From: Selmer, TN
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Message 104 of 204 (389780)
03-15-2007 1:40 PM
Reply to: Message 100 by riVeRraT
03-14-2007 8:08 AM


What helped me greatly years ago, was just reading books on it.
For those that have the basics down, I think there's no better book than The Amateur Mind by Jeremy Silman. It's what helped me get an idea what to do once the opening was done. I used to move all my pieces out, get castled, get my rooks connected, and then think, "What do I do now?" If there was no immediate checkmate/attack plan, I was lost.
Once I learned about getting good posts for knights and what sort of pawn formations to create for the pieces I had left, I had some great games with computers. Good programs know about these things, and it is amazing the resources a computer will devote to prevent you from posting a knight in a hole in its territory.
I played a game recently, too, where I lost a bishop to a Queen fork. Because I'd learned about making good use of each piece, I was able to realize that I wasn't really behind. My pieces were out, and the other guy had a Rook and Knight still buried in the corner. So I attacked with everything I had, figuring that despite being behind in total pieces, I was ahead in pieces involved in the battle. I got a win out of a game that would have disheartened me thoroughly before I read the Amateur Mind.
Of course, you have to get the basics down first. Yasser Seirawan produced a series for Microsoft that's fun to read, because he's pretty comical. Otherwise, old Fred Reinfeld books that you can get off ebay for a song are the way to go, in my opinion.
Oh, and if you're really at the basic level, Bobby Fischer Teaches Chess is an awesome and easy primer to get you used to using your pieces. It's also available on ebay for a song, and it doesn't have a lot of words to bore you with. Just pure chess.

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Omnivorous
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Message 105 of 204 (389796)
03-15-2007 2:44 PM
Reply to: Message 103 by Zawi
03-15-2007 1:12 PM


Re: Two more games to go til the quarter finals...
Zawi writes:
Good game Omni. Nine times out of ten I'm sure you would've beaten me!
Yeah, right.
Really sharp play, Zawi.
Quarter finals? Are we playing an elimination format?

Real things always push back.
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