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New Cat's Eye
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Message 31 of 35 (389235)
03-11-2007 11:15 PM
Reply to: Message 29 by Straggler
03-10-2007 3:51 AM


Re: true Nothingness
True nothingness means no space, no dimensions and no time
So is true nothing infinite then?
Well if it has no time and no spatial dimensions I suppose it is infinite in the sense that it never ends. But equally it is totally non infinite as it never actually starts either
Ha! I agree.
I think my point was that we cannot say that it{"Nothing"} is not infinite.
But don't get that confused with:
Nothing is not infinite, or that nothing is finite, as these statements are obviously not true.
I don't think our limited consciousnes is capable of comprehending true nothingness.
I agree with that too.

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Message 32 of 35 (389314)
03-12-2007 4:56 PM
Reply to: Message 31 by New Cat's Eye
03-11-2007 11:15 PM


Re: true Nothingness
It seems we have too much agreement for any real debate then!!

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Message 33 of 35 (389321)
03-12-2007 5:56 PM
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03-12-2007 4:56 PM


Re: true Nothingness
It seems we have too much agreement for any real debate then!!
So allow me to interject and point out that 'true nothingness' is no more infinite than it is brown...

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Message 34 of 35 (389325)
03-12-2007 6:21 PM
Reply to: Message 33 by cavediver
03-12-2007 5:56 PM


Re: true Nothingness
Well I would agree with that too
As I said previously - It is no more infinite than it is finite. Nothing - Real nothing - is nothing. No spatial dimensions. No time. No matter (obviously I guess)
So Cavey - I have seen your posts in other threads and know you to be well informed on this sort of subject. What exactly is your take on the whole nothingness question from aphysics point of view?
Does the question of nothingness even make senset our 3D time based comprehension?
I cannot imagine a 2D world with time anything but mathematically so what chance of grasping - nothing?

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Message 35 of 35 (389747)
03-15-2007 11:37 AM
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03-11-2007 11:15 PM


Re: true Nothingness
nothingness is neither infinite or finite , as both are measures of "something"
nothingness by its nature cannot be measured in any way , it is not 0.0000 units in length as the lenght does not apply to is .
it does not even have zero properties , its the complete absents of All properties.

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