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Author Topic:   The Anthropic Principal - Cosmology
cavediver
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Message 33 of 69 (389791)
03-15-2007 2:16 PM
Reply to: Message 27 by Tusko
03-15-2007 1:40 PM


Re: God-did-it doesn't help
3)postulate the whole shebang has existed forever and as a consequence wasn't created.
Non-sequitur I'm afraid As far as we are aware...
The Universe can be temporally finite and be created
The Universe can be temporally finite and not be created
The Universe can be temporally infinite and be created
The Universe can be temporally infinite and not be created
Do I sound like Jar?
And if anyone wants to appreciate the Anthropic Principle (Weak), read PaulK's and SG's contributions. Me, I'm off to see a Genesis tribute band perform the Selling England gig

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cavediver
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Message 61 of 69 (389847)
03-15-2007 7:24 PM
Reply to: Message 59 by bebotx1
03-15-2007 7:03 PM


PaulK writes:
(although it isn't quite a tautology if there was a God it could keep us going even in an environment we "shouldn't" be able to survive in).
Very good observation - I missed that.
Then maybe you might want to reconsider your OP, swallow some of your smart-arse comments, and think about this whole subject slowly from the beginning...
The Genesis gig was incredible... I've seen them do The Lamb before, which was exellent, but Supper's Ready tonight was truly religious

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cavediver
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Message 66 of 69 (389865)
03-16-2007 9:25 AM
Reply to: Message 64 by Tusko
03-16-2007 8:58 AM


Re: God-did-it doesn't help
But I obviously SAID something else... I just can't work out what!
You implied that a universe that had an infinite past was necessarily NOT created. I was just pointing out that an act of creation of the Universe does not have to be at any particular point in time or space, and a universe with an inifnite past and future does not preclude its creation by a higher-order entity.
We sometimes think about our own potential space-time manipulation capabailities in the far far future, and it is possible we could create our own infinite universes Sort of makes our current ability to "play God" seem rather pathetic...

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