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anastasia
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Message 31 of 39 (389582)
03-14-2007 12:30 PM
Reply to: Message 28 by tsig
03-13-2007 11:11 PM


Re: How?
ts writes:

How do you know that isn't the way god sounds?

Yes, I think you are yanking our chains a bit or something with these questions. Maybe you are a fan of Popoff?

All I know is that if the voice of God were detectable byscanner and we could all use an earpiece to pick it up, well, this would be a very different world.


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tsig
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Message 32 of 39 (389803)
03-15-2007 4:04 PM
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03-14-2007 12:30 PM


Re:chains
Yes, I think you are yanking our chains a bit or something with these questions. Maybe you are a fan of Popoff?

All I know is that if the voice of God were detectable byscanner and we could all use an earpiece to pick it up, well, this would be a very different world.

I am no fan of Popoff.

The questions were an attempt for me ,as an athiest, to find out what criteria you used to determine that your system was true and Popoff's was false.

If we could detect god on a scanner then it would be a natural event.

(we may be getting too serious for the coffehouse)

(sorry for the delay had browser poblems, also I had to think about the answer.)

Thanks


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tsig
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Message 33 of 39 (389806)
03-15-2007 4:11 PM
Reply to: Message 30 by kalimero
03-14-2007 3:22 AM


Re: How?
I don't. But it could also be the sound of the tooth fairy, it's just as reasonable as the sound of god. The simplest explaination is that it's just his wife giving him information about those poor people that are being decieved (also the one that collected the info).

I agree.

How deep are you willing to let the razor cut?

Edited by ts, : spelling


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kalimero
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Message 34 of 39 (389810)
03-15-2007 4:44 PM
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03-15-2007 4:11 PM


Re: How?
How deep are you willing to let the razor cut?

I'm not sure what you mean. But if you mean what I think you mean then:
The deeper I cut the more sure I am of what I think about the subject when I ultimately have evidence to support it.
I know that it hurts when the razor cuts, it's when I start throwing away any unnecessary claims about the world that I would like to have, it's when I have to face the fact that I'm wrong about some things. But in the end, as I have learned in life, it's pays off to do the right thing (rationally) despite personal conviction. I can look people in the eye, it's honesty.


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Message 35 of 39 (389825)
03-15-2007 5:36 PM
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03-15-2007 4:44 PM


Reunderstanding
I'm not sure what you mean. But if you mean what I think you mean then:
The deeper I cut the more sure I am of what I think about the subject when I ultimately have evidence to support it.
I know that it hurts when the razor cuts, it's when I start throwing away any unnecessary claims about the world that I would like to have, it's when I have to face the fact that I'm wrong about some things. But in the end, as I have learned in life, it's pays off to do the right thing (rationally) despite personal conviction. I can look people in the eye, it's honesty.

Seems you understood perfectly.

Without evidence it's just opinion.

Your last sentence seems to be the basis of morality.

Thanks

Edited by ts, : change title


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kalimero
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Message 36 of 39 (389829)
03-15-2007 5:51 PM
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03-15-2007 5:36 PM


Re: Reunderstanding
Without evidence it's just opinion.

"it"? What are you referring to?

Your last sentence seems to be the basis of morality.

:rolleyes: :o
Well... I'm just a simple person...


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tsig
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Message 37 of 39 (389836)
03-15-2007 6:25 PM
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03-15-2007 5:51 PM


"it"
Without evidence it's just opinion.

"it"? What are you referring to?

By "it" I was refering to most any statement or assertion.

If I say the earth is flat, evidence shows me wrong.

If I say the continents move, evidence shows me right.

Without evidence both statements carry equal weight.

Thanks


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Message 38 of 39 (389838)
03-15-2007 6:31 PM
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03-15-2007 5:51 PM


Bast
Well... I'm just a simple person...

Humm..profound statements and humble about it. Judging from your avatar you are the god Bast.lol


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anastasia
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Message 39 of 39 (389853)
03-15-2007 7:40 PM
Reply to: Message 32 by tsig
03-15-2007 4:04 PM


Re: Re:chains
ts writes:

The questions were an attempt for me ,as an athiest, to find out what criteria you used to determine that your system was true and Popoff's was false.

If we could detect god on a scanner then it would be a natural event.

I have heard this argument many, many times before. It might be a good question somewhere else, but there is truly no profundity here. The voice of 'God' was picked up by scanner, it was a natural event, and I don't have any system to compare.

Edited by anastasia, : No reason given.


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