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Taz
Member (Idle past 3313 days)
Posts: 5069
From: Zerus
Joined: 07-18-2006


Message 247 of 297 (390674)
03-21-2007 2:00 PM
Reply to: Message 246 by zcoder
03-21-2007 1:52 PM


I'm dying to know. What country are you from? What language(s) beside English do you speak? Do you have any religious affiliation? Answering these questions would greatly help me figure out something about you that I've been wondering about for the last couple days.

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Taz
Member (Idle past 3313 days)
Posts: 5069
From: Zerus
Joined: 07-18-2006


Message 249 of 297 (390700)
03-21-2007 3:50 PM
Reply to: Message 248 by zcoder
03-21-2007 2:29 PM


So () {
Am I correct to assume that {
you were born in the United States of America;
and that you spoke and wrote in English all your life?;
}
}
Edited by Tazmanian Devil, : No reason given.

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Taz
Member (Idle past 3313 days)
Posts: 5069
From: Zerus
Joined: 07-18-2006


Message 251 of 297 (390762)
03-21-2007 7:55 PM
Reply to: Message 250 by zcoder
03-21-2007 3:56 PM


zcoder writes:
I don't Get the connection to my personal info in relation to
my beliefs.
In all honesty, I am just confused. You claim to have been an engineer and programmer in your life. You claim to have at least a son. You seem to have implied that you're a natural born English speaker. All of these claims point to someone that should have at least a technical grasp of the English language AS WELL AS some technical knowledge of basic science.
What confuses me is that your spellings are consistently terrible. Its not like missing an apostrophe like the first word in this sentence. You are consistently misspelling words, writing long run-on sentences, and not being able to interpret properly what others say on here. What confuses me even more is your apparent total lack of understanding of the most basic concepts in science.
Now, if I have stumbled onto some sort of condition or that English isn't really your first language, then I apologize. But for now, to me at least, your posts do not resemble that of an engineer veteran and programmer. The gods help you if you write the same way on your resume and cover letters.
And rest assured that I am not questioning your beliefs. I am questioning some of your claims.

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Taz
Member (Idle past 3313 days)
Posts: 5069
From: Zerus
Joined: 07-18-2006


Message 257 of 297 (390805)
03-22-2007 12:46 AM
Reply to: Message 252 by zcoder
03-21-2007 8:38 PM


zcoder writes:
I have no degree in english nore in a true science.
I think very few of us here have a degree in English. I, myself, do not have a degree in English. That fact can be ascertained by looking at how I said "I, myself, do..." in the previous sentence.
In life, we communicate with each other with words, facial expressions, and the intensity of our voices. In fact, I often find myself having to use my hands a lot when I try to describe complicated concepts in layman's terms for people to understand.
What we are trying to point out to you is that on an online board like this where anybody can post his opinions, debate with other people, and express his (random) thoughts, the only way people can understand each other clearly is if everyone volunteers to not be so cryptic. We have only your words and the format you've chosen to express them in to interpret your what you want to say to us. Unfortunately, your posts so far are very hard for us to figure out. Not only that, whenever you respond to one of us, it really seems to me like you haven't read our words properly. In other words, you appear to be talking right past us.
I think you must think I am suppose to be a beauty queen?
On the contrary, I have often raise a voice of protest everytime I hear someone put down someone else because of his/her profession. I absolutely do not think there is nothing wrong with beauty queens. In fact, I often defend prostitutes when I hear my friends put them down.
I think what I'm trying to say in too many words is I really don't care what you do in life. It's what you claim that I care about. I find it hard to believe that an engineer and programmer veteran that you've claimed to be could have so many misconceptions in physics. Even most of my students that had trouble with basic kinematics did not have the misconceptions that you've shown us. Right now, I don't konw what to think. But it would help me, and others, greatly if you would stop taking offense at everything we say and try to see just how almost incomprehensible your posts appear to us.
also I am sure the posts I make bug you in my style and maybe my
content too as well. but I was not applying for a job either.
nore do I put any professional touch on forum posts as if I was
writting a book?
I'd hardly call a consistence in misspelling and run-ons a "style". It would bother me less if behind this style of yours you actually make some sense. But so far, it is this very style of yours that is contributing greatly to the incomprehensibleness (if that's a word) of your posts in general.
Again, this is an online debate forum. We can't see your face. We can't hear the tone of your voice. We can't see how you are expressing your hands. The only thing that is coming across from you to me are the words you decide to post on here and the style you've chosen to use.
However, if I have stumbled upon some sort of condition or that you are not a native born English speaker, I very much apologize.
also you can attack my spelling, grammar, and anything else you wish
to do, and I still will respect you.
I don't think I've actually intended to attack your spelling, grammar, or anything else except your ideas, which I admit to have bluntly used the phrase "give out a negative pressure differential" when describing them.
Look at it this way, this is a debate forum. Ideas are open to attack at anytime. My ideas are attacked all the time. I have found that the times I've been wrong far outnumber the times I've been right. I've also more often than not unintensionally missspel a few words heer and there.
Judge as you wish, but what nationality I am is not your concern.
For now, I will take this as an implication that you are not a native English speaker, and that is perfectly fine. We have people from all over the world here. For example, our very own long term member Brad McFall is from Lalaland and he often communicates with us in Jargon, a language most of us aren't familiar with. You should converse with him sometimes.

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Taz
Member (Idle past 3313 days)
Posts: 5069
From: Zerus
Joined: 07-18-2006


Message 260 of 297 (390888)
03-22-2007 1:36 PM
Reply to: Message 258 by zcoder
03-22-2007 12:55 PM


zcoder writes:
Hence I felt you treaded into my personal life to discredit me.
First of all, the only time I ever "treaded" into your personal life was when I asked what nationality you were and if you had any religious affiliation. The rest of your personal life stuff, like having at least a son, being an engineer and programmer, etc., you voluntarily gave them out.
But look at it this way. Why would I want to discredit you when you've only shown up for a few days? I hardly know anything about your philosophies and your beliefs. Heck, I don't even know if you support gay rights or not (and I usually judge people on that issue).
One possible explanation is that I'm just a nasty person and just wants to pick on any newbie that crosses my path. Another explanation is so far I have had only your posts to tell what's going on between our communications.
I am French, I also have a handy cap, and my field in
no way ever included any sciences that you have described.
Didn't I say twice already that I apologize if either of the cases was true?
And if my assertion is wrong, then it still stands
that you can't comprehend what I say, out of all the
other public forums I frequent.
Ok, I'll take your word for it. What I can tell you is that most of us don't care if you're English, French, Chinese, Afghan, or whatever. Every once in a while, I stumble into a Francais community and try to talk to them. Of course, not being a native French speaker, I stumble a lot, too, and I tell them that I'm just a French-wannabe American.
No, I would not, the ethical line on decency has been
crossed.
I'm sorry if you feel that way. But we frequently get new posters that have read a paragraph from their high school biology text book, come here and declare themselves biologists, and then start blowing out hot air (an American academic term for pure bullshit) hoping to impress the rest of us with the one word biology word they memorized.
We also frequently get new posters that are like 12 and type similar to how you type.
I'm sorry, but since you kept refusing to tell us you were non-English native speaker even when I asked you directly, I just assumed otherwise. Again, on an internet forum like this we don't have anything to on but your words.
Si vous décidez de retourner plus tard, je serai heureux discuter ce qui vous voulez discuter.

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Taz
Member (Idle past 3313 days)
Posts: 5069
From: Zerus
Joined: 07-18-2006


Message 264 of 297 (391800)
03-27-2007 1:26 PM
Reply to: Message 263 by b b
03-26-2007 2:34 PM


b_b writes:
Zcoder all Americans are not as illiterate as Taz and Ringo.
I wouldn't say we're completely illiterate. I don't know about Ringo, but I'd describe myself as only semi-illiterate.
If a 12 year old kid gets on here he/she might give Taz a challenge.
This I have no doubt of. During the short period when I was an elementary teacher's assistant many years ago, I discovered that the little buggers were a hand full. I had to resort to kicking and punching to get them in line.
The appeal of this site is that everyone gets a chance to voice opinions regardless of religion, race, nationality, age, or anything else.
Would "anything else" include my semi-illiteracy?
None of that stuff Taz talked about had anything to do with the subject.
Sure, it does. Let's look at it this way. What if I come in here and claim that I've been an engineer for many years and start to say that gravity comes from spinning? Any person who's taken basic kinematics in high school should know that spinning has nothing to do with gravity except when you're talking about space-time relativity stuff. Wouldn't you suspect something about my claim having been an engineer for many years? Now, what if I also make the claim that I've designed and run simulation programs of the universe and all that good stuff and at the same time still maintain that gravity comes from the spin of an object? Wouldn't you suspect some more that something is fishy?
Believe it or not, everything that you say no matter how off the wall it may be has something to do with the subject being discussed. One cannot claim to be a bible expert and then proceed to say Jesus was hanged to death. One cannot claim to be a biologist and then proceed to say that animal cells have cell wall. One cannot claim to be a philosopher and proceed to say socrates was a christian.

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Taz
Member (Idle past 3313 days)
Posts: 5069
From: Zerus
Joined: 07-18-2006


Message 266 of 297 (392216)
03-29-2007 9:08 PM
Reply to: Message 265 by zcoder
03-29-2007 3:16 PM


zcoder writes:
I will also say that any attacks on me based on my field and on my spelling to be pure nonsense.
I believe I said I apologized like 4 times. Here, let me put it in a language you could understand better.
if (your_native_language != english || you == language_condition) {
cout<< "I apologize";
}

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Taz
Member (Idle past 3313 days)
Posts: 5069
From: Zerus
Joined: 07-18-2006


Message 269 of 297 (392255)
03-30-2007 12:33 AM
Reply to: Message 268 by zcoder
03-29-2007 10:22 PM


Re: ...
if(you_stick_around == TRUE) {
    you = my_new_evc_best_friend;
    while(my_attitude < nice) {
        my_attitude++;
    }
}
Edited by Tazmanian Devil, : No reason given.
Edited by Tazmanian Devil, : No reason given.

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Taz
Member (Idle past 3313 days)
Posts: 5069
From: Zerus
Joined: 07-18-2006


Message 287 of 297 (433535)
11-12-2007 1:01 PM
Reply to: Message 285 by Jason777
11-12-2007 12:50 AM


Re: Stars?
Jason777 writes:
Yes that is true.An athiest doesnt beleive,an agnostic is one who claims to have proof of the nonexistance of God.
Just curious. Where are you from?

Owing to the deficiency of the English language, I have occasionally used the academic jargon generator to produce phrases that even I don't fully understand. The jargons are not meant to offend anyone or to insult anyone's intelligence!

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