There you Go,YECs...biblical "evidence" of "flat earth beliefs"

Please try to pay attention, just this once.This forum, the Bible Accuracy and Inerrancy Forum, is about science. There are people who think there is science in the Bible and the point of this forum is to examine their claims.It's not about "breaking down" the Bible. It's about trying to show people that the Bible isn't science.Since you seem to agree that the Bible isn't about science, why don't you contribute something constructive to this forum instead of accusing me of having evil motives?

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I respect your view very much, but I can't be apart of it.
even if I was to, it is wrong, becouse it is not ethical to go around
and beak people faith, it's just not right.I happen to know what the bible was for, But others don't, and I am
sure your underling goal is to shatter peoples faith.
And in doing so I would be guilty also.You see god did not use the bible to tell people things they may not
even understand anyway. besides if he would have, it would have coused
those people to ask more questions, cousing them to miss the whole
message.so if you strip the old testament away then jump to revelations and
striped it away, then you will have the meat of the message.all the rest is views of the time ect. which is still interesting to
be able to peer into what it must have been like.I hope you understand.Zcoder....Edited by zcoder, : edit word

I am not trying to break anybody's faith. Please STOP accusing me of that. As I said, STOP accusing me of that. It is FALSE. On the contrary, asking questions helps us to learn. Do you really want to learn or are you just interested in making false accusations?

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I said: And I did not say you could see all of it at one time.You people have to quit putting words in other peoples mouth.

"We people" don't do everything collectively. I wasn't putting words in your mouth - I was discussing the topic. That's what you should have been doing too, so that's how I responded.Do you have anything to say on the subject of whether or not the earth is flat?

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"entire" does not mean "all"? not according to its common usage. "entire" is synomonous with "all", "whole", "complete", "everything", need I add more?we did not put words in your mouth. you put them there to begin with. if you did not mean "entire", do not say "entire".

There you go again. it's like you know what he meant,
or your silly, or all this is just nit picking.Something is wrong here, and it has to do with lack of meaning
more then the useage of some words.Zcoder....

we're not out to get people (well, i'm not). fact one: he used the word "entire". fact two: "entire" has a specific meaning. conclusion: either he does not know what "entire" means, or he meant "entire". either way, we were correcting an erroneous statement.think of it more like the teacher at school saying "no jimmy, that's not true". not like the judge putting you in jail.methinks you need to cool your reaction.

I can say with the utmost confidence that nobody here is a mind reader. I really really really wish I could read other people's minds through the internet. But I can't. Nobody can. We are, then, left with a form of communication that people have been using for ages: writing. If you can't communicate properly with words, then do not blame the rest of us for misinterpreting what you have to say.It is not nitpicking if we point out that 2+2!=5. When you've written "2+2=5" and go back and say "I didn't really mean it..." how can we possibly know that you didn't really mean it if it is written right in front of us that "2+2=5"?

Tell that to President Bush. He believes in the 6 day creation and flood stories.

I'm not pissed, but I figure it this way, I don't know that other guy
so I really gain nothing in defending him, But I knew what he meant.
And I really think you did too.To prove it, I asked my 9 year old to read just that one line. then
I asked him if the guy said he could see the world, he said yeah.
I then pointed out to him the words he chose to use and what that
might mean, But the 9 year old told me then it was obvious that he
just meant the world and not all of it.Now tell me your not nit picking, couse I am sure you knew what he
meant too.hence the reason I say you must be nit picking. after all I know your
smart enough to know what the 9 year old assumed.
so I know you could have assumed too.Zcoder....

That's always the problem with assumptions: you make an assumption that gives you the conclusion you want.I think that's what Taz was saying about mind-reading: as long as we can't read somebody's mind, we have to take what they wrote as written. We can't make assumptions about what they "meant".Such assumptions are okay for a 9-year-old, but we expect a better standard of thinking from adults.The same goes for what's written in the Bible. We can't assume that they knew the world was round and then twist their words to fit. We have to read what's written and try to understand what they understood.

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I did not ask you to assume they knew the world was round.
My words I wrote stand as I have written them.Zcoder....

I didn't say you did. I said you can't.That's the kind of assumption a 9-year-old would make. It's the kind of assumption you touted, even if it wasn't the same specific assumption.I'm saying you can't make any assumptions about what the authors of the Bible "meant". You can only infer what they meant from what they wrote. I'm saying that your story about your 9-year-old is irrelevant to this discussion because the assumption(s) he made are not valid.

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Does anybody want to wade in on the rest of post 138?
You beat my joke part to death.Does the earth have a cycle it goes through every year?