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Dr Jack
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Message 16 of 84 (368377)
12-08-2006 7:41 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Hyroglyphx
12-07-2006 7:01 PM


Lets look at cats for a moment, since my un-neutered cat is trying to molest the other cats in the house. The male bites at the neck, forcibly pinning the female while he does his thing. (I'm sure I don't need to go into great detail about cat sex).
This is nonsense. Not only is cat sex (usually) consentual, but it is impossible for cats to concieve without it. Queens only ovulate after their first sexual encounter, when the backward facing spines on his penis rake across her vaginal walls. Thus Cats will usually meet and copulate more than once, roughly 24 hours apart. Queens not only solicit sex but are well capable of rebuffing the efforts of Tom cats over whom they are dominant in cat society. Toms do, indeed, grip the back of the neck and need the back and shoudlers of Queens during mating; but your description of it as forceful penetration is simply projection.

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Dr Jack
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Message 70 of 84 (391940)
03-28-2007 7:07 AM
Reply to: Message 28 by Hyroglyphx
12-08-2006 1:54 PM


Re: Sexual behavior of felines
First of all, I didn't mention consent. Secondly, certainly is not always consensual and I don't know how you could possibly quantify feline sexual behavior to know whether or not consent is the norm.
Female cats return to the same tomcat to have a second sexual encounter; they offer themselves to the tom by posturing and meowing.
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Thirdly, are you suggesting that felines don't need to procreate in order to conceive?
I phrased my answer badly. What I mean is that without having the inside of her vagina raked by the spines on the tom's penis she is incapable of conceiving; because it is this that causes her to ovulate.
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hat I was alluding to is that cat sex is very aggressive, where the male bites at the neck of the female to hold her down. I also mentioned that the yowls you hear at night are not always cats fighting somewhere in the neighborhood, but rather, that's the sound of a female cat having sex. She is in pain. Its not a pleasurable experience for her.
Your woefully ignorant of cat physiology and sexuality. You're wrong. Cats have thick layers of skin on the back of their necks, it is this the tomcat grips (its the same physiological feature that allows Queens to carry their kittens without getting hurt). Your interpretation of her yowling as pain and dismay is simply wrong. Female cats experience orgasm during sexual encounters; pleasure chemicals are released in their brain.

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