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Author Topic:   Rape and evolution
Tusko
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Message 73 of 84 (391994)
03-28-2007 1:08 PM
Reply to: Message 69 by Doddy
03-28-2007 6:26 AM


Re: An important distinction.
I guess the most obvious reason I can think of is that many rapes are perpetrated against men, which can't be viewed as an effective means of transferring genes to the next generation, last ditch or not.
If you can discount that motive in a significant number of rape cases, then it seems to me at least that something more complex is going on - probably an interelation between social and genetic influences.

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Tusko
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From: London, UK
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Message 76 of 84 (392080)
03-29-2007 7:57 AM
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03-29-2007 12:10 AM


Re: An important distinction.
Like Crash, I tend to believe that rape in prisons is primarily an expression of dominance than a way of finding sexual release. There are after all other ways of making yourself ejaculate- whacking off, obviously, but lets not forget consensual sex either.
If this urge to have sexual relations is the primary cause of male rape, it seems odd to me to choose what on the face of it seems the most dangerous (I'm talking purely of the rough and tumble of wrestling someone into sexual submission here) way to fire off live rounds - if there isn't a fundamental underlying social/power element.

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Tusko
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Message 79 of 84 (392086)
03-29-2007 8:34 AM
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03-29-2007 8:11 AM


Re: An important distinction.
I would expect that the biological children of rapists raised without trauma or abuse would be less likely to rape than the biological children of non-rapists raised in an atmosphere of sexual abuse and humiliation. I wonder if this is born out in any studies.
However, if you want me to give you an exact number on how much more significant I think the social aspect is than the genetic, I can't.
I was just piping up because I thought you were saying that power wasn't a significant issue in rapes.
I've always understood the power and the humiliation of others to be a major part of the attraction.

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