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Author Topic:   Get Over Your Fear of Atheism
mike the wiz
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Message 3 of 169 (392627)
04-01-2007 3:57 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by crashfrog
04-01-2007 1:57 PM


Only rat bikers go to heaven
Hi crash/everyone.
First of all, you helped me become evolutionist and taught me logic and educated me, you and others - and I am grateful. But you've made me into an irrefutable one so now you have to deal with your monster.
..... So one day, there was this man who had a 50cc fs1e Yamaha moped. It's top speed was 30mph. When he first got it, he was amazed by it - completely taken. It was his treasured little toy. One day he went to this biker shop where rat- bikers gather, and they all told him to do it up - get a new exhaust for it, a bigger engine. Because he wanted to confirm how great his toy was, he went along with it. In the end he had a fizzy that smoked and rattled, but the bikers thought it was great. Now one day he realized how crappy it had become - and no longer looked new and cute and nippy, etc...So - he had a decision to make. He could just get a nice big motorcycle, as it seems to be true that they're the only fast ones that can only give you that true biker-joy. OR, he can go home, and rebuild his little moped, and try to find out what was so special about it to him in the first place.
So he went home, stripped it to it's original base-form, and the rat- bikers said that he wasn't a true biker anymore, and the sports-bikers insisted that only a big bike would give him joy, as that's what he was searching for.
The truth is, that he loves his fs1e, and so he won't give it up. People can try and convince him it's crap, small, no power - a joke, but he enjoys it. He loves it. It's his decision really. Yes - he can see that the sports bikes are the faster - the better, trumps his own bike.
When I became atheist for a small while, Crash - that happened to me. Untill, when the night came, I found that I wanted to be grateful for my food that day. I asked fellow atheists if they thought I would be silly to say a small prayer to whatever God existed, simply thanking him for what I have. They said sure - that it can't harm anyone. Then I said the next day, perhaps I want to go to those places of nature and thank whatever created it like I used to, and be silent and spiritual. they said - well, I suppose that wouldn't harm anyone. then I said - I think I want to pray for that little girl who got ill. So they said - okay, being thankful isn't problematic, being spiritual isn't such a big deal, I suppose if you pray for her, it wouldn't be so silly.
There is a faith that doesn't require anything but giving, and benevolence, and charity and gratitude, that doesn't boast, and can only make the individual better. Why do we seek such a taxing faith? Maybe we simply want to be a being, a spiritual being, rather than only an animal.
Has the Muslim this faith - ofcourse. What about the buddhist? Ofcourse - anyone can have this. Even an atheist can have this benevolent capacity within, because he also isn't just an animal - he is equal.
Send me the paper that refuted God, and tomorrow morning I will be an atheist. Untill then, all I ask is that you accept our conviction is more powerful than creationism. Because when you lose the fear that God exists - THEN you have true strength. Then you need the jaws of life to make me atheist!

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mike the wiz
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Message 6 of 169 (392657)
04-01-2007 5:26 PM
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04-01-2007 4:23 PM


Re: Only rat bikers go to heaven
A bit condescending Crash. You made a mistake with the term "still".
For a few months I didn't believe in God/s anymore because of my depression and doubts. I then started to beleive again.
I can smell the no true scotsman begging to burst from your throat.

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mike the wiz
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Message 56 of 169 (393029)
04-03-2007 10:03 AM
Reply to: Message 55 by nator
04-03-2007 8:04 AM


Re: Why I didn't become an atheist
What makes you think that atheists "do whatever the hell they want"?
I can relate to what he said, and it isn't necessarily that he is saying that atheists can me immoral, but that you don't have the burden of worrying about what God thinks of your actions, you don't have the guilt, the worry incase you sin, or the obligations, to pray etc..

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mike the wiz
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Message 64 of 169 (393114)
04-03-2007 3:11 PM
Reply to: Message 62 by Stile
04-03-2007 2:17 PM


Re: Why I didn't become an atheist
Which also proves my point (and yours) that the statement I took from mike the wiz's post was a strawman.
Like Donald duck proves that ducks can talk.
Stile, are you acting a stool?
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mike the wiz
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Message 67 of 169 (393165)
04-03-2007 6:10 PM
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04-03-2007 3:25 PM


Re: Why I didn't become an atheist
I'm just releasing some goon juices from my humour-bladder. Apparently everyone was under strawman's arrest.

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mike the wiz
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Message 146 of 169 (394690)
04-12-2007 7:02 PM
Reply to: Message 145 by nator
04-12-2007 6:52 PM


B2P wrestlemaniababa is back
You and Crash are both opinionated ass-hats.
Man you guys suck.
Kiss my ass.
I feel better already Shraff.

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