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AdminPD
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Message 121 of 305 (391372)
03-24-2007 7:44 PM
Reply to: Message 119 by LinearAq
03-21-2007 12:23 PM


Re: Concerning the off-topic warnings in Abortion - Moments of (Mis)Conception
nator writes:

Why is ending life OK in one instance and not OK in another?

riVeRrat writes:

It's never ok nator, as I said earlier in this thread.

If it's not ok then why do you support the killing of the child of the person who was assaulted?

From the point of view of the human-at-the-point-of-conception crowd, isn't that the same as supporting a mother killing her two-year old son because her husband beat her up?

I don't see where your post or the others were heading towards whether anyones argument against abortion relied on defining the moment of life.

If you feel I have misread them, then make your case with appropriate links.


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Message 122 of 305 (391982)
03-28-2007 11:57 AM


Can you cut me a little slack?
Don't know where to put this reply to Percy's Message 301. It was blocked when the AdminQuetzal closed the thread (per my request).

Crash and myself and others are trying to make sense out your posts that often appear to include both insight and confusion, and if you're actually a publishing scientist in the field of biology this makes it all the more perplexing. Something just doesn't add up, at least not for me.

Well, I never said I was a professional evolutionary biologist. Can you cut me a liitle slack? I'm still seaching for answers, just like you and others here. Pardon me for all the grievous errors, as you see them. But I have to ask you: Is everyone here on this forum expected to be perfect all the time? You've made errors, too, bad ones, but I'm not banging the gong over them all the time.

The biggest problem with the question "What exactly is natural selection and precisely where does it occur?" is agreeing on key definitions. We still seem to be miles apart. Maybe we need another thread to get at those definitions, one way or the other, possibly titled: "Why can't we agree on the meaning of natural selction?"

—HM


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Message 123 of 305 (391985)
03-28-2007 12:20 PM
Reply to: Message 122 by Fosdick
03-28-2007 11:57 AM


Re: Can you cut me a little slack?
Slack in what way? I don't see where you've experienced any administrator action. All that's happening is that you're being disagreed with. (Gasp!)

Are you saying that people don't have the right to explain how your behavior is frustrating to them, and how they have difficulty seeing how your posts contain anything but word-salad nonsense and glib one-liners? (Not to mention a fair helping of misrepresenting your opponents.)

I wonder if you're even capable of imagining that your opponents might have legitimate objections to your behavior, and might not simply be acting out of some kind of personal malice against someone they've never ever met.


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AdminPD
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Message 124 of 305 (391989)
03-28-2007 12:34 PM
Reply to: Message 122 by Fosdick
03-28-2007 11:57 AM


Re: Can you cut me a little slack?
quote:
Don't know where to put this reply to Percy's Message 301 (Thread What exactly is natural selection and precisely where does it occur?). It was blocked when the AdminQuetzal closed the thread (per my request).
Once a thread is closed there is no place to get in the last word.

The only other option is a continuation thread if someone feels there is more to be said concerning the subject, not just your personal last response.

This thread concerns problems with moderation action or praises.

So I ask that on one continue the closed thread discussion in this board or discuss Hoot Mon's need for slack.


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Message 125 of 305 (391992)
03-28-2007 12:53 PM
Reply to: Message 124 by AdminPD
03-28-2007 12:34 PM


Re: Can you cut me a little slack?
AdminPD writes:

This thread concerns problems with moderation action or praises.

Let us praise the Admins.
O Admins...
Ooh, You are so big...
So absolutely huge.
Gosh, we're all really impressed down here, I can tell You.
Forgive us, O Admins, for this, our dreadful toadying, and...
And barefaced flattery.
But You are so strong and, well, just so super.
Fantastic.
Amen.

credit where credit is due

Only You :rolleyes:

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Chiroptera
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Message 126 of 305 (393161)
04-03-2007 6:00 PM


Normally I don't like over moderating, but...
...will someone ban this troll?
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Message 127 of 305 (393164)
04-03-2007 6:08 PM
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04-03-2007 6:00 PM


Re: Normally I don't like over moderating, but...
I imagine you will be soundly reprimanded for your namecalling.
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Message 128 of 305 (393179)
04-03-2007 6:49 PM
Reply to: Message 127 by joshua221
04-03-2007 6:08 PM


Re: Normally I don't like over moderating, but...
Ignatius,

You've made eight posts of absolutely no substance since you joined today. AdminPD has already had to tag several of your posts as off topic. Please read our Forum Guidelines and adhere to our guidelines.

The next time I feel the need to ask for your cooperation it will be with a short suspension.

AbE - If this is who I suspect, the suspension will be a banning.

Edited by AdminAsgara, : spelling

Edited by AdminAsgara, : No reason given.


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    Chiroptera
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    Message 129 of 305 (393206)
    04-03-2007 10:29 PM
    Reply to: Message 128 by AdminAsgara
    04-03-2007 6:49 PM


    Re: Normally I don't like over moderating, but...
    quote:
    If this is who I suspect, the suspension will be a banning.

    Hmm. His style is vaguely familiar, but I can't place him.


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    Taz
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    Message 130 of 305 (393223)
    04-04-2007 12:01 AM
    Reply to: Message 128 by AdminAsgara
    04-03-2007 6:49 PM


    Re: Normally I don't like over moderating, but...
    AdminAsgara writes:

    If this is who I suspect, the suspension will be a banning.


    I'm dying to know who you are thinking of.
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    AdminAsgara
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    Message 131 of 305 (393228)
    04-04-2007 12:10 AM
    Reply to: Message 128 by AdminAsgara
    04-03-2007 6:49 PM


    Re: Normally I don't like over moderating, but...
    I was correct. Prophex you're out of here.


    AdminAsgara Queen of the Universe

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    Message 132 of 305 (393231)
    04-04-2007 12:21 AM
    Reply to: Message 131 by AdminAsgara
    04-04-2007 12:10 AM


    Re: Normally I don't like over moderating, but...
    It wasn't me, I just liked the post. I didn't want to tarnish it, that's why I took back my posts.

    I couldn't write something like that if I had my whole life to do it.


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    Fosdick 
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    Message 133 of 305 (393334)
    04-04-2007 1:16 PM


    Warnings v. opinions
    I have a quibble with AdminNosy. In Message 86 he issued me this warning:

    This is a stupid attack on WK. His comments were about the details of your description of the protein synthesis process. He then pointed out exactly where you were, in his opinion, in error.
    I suspect that you shouldn't be mouthing off -- for two reasons:
1) it will get you suspended.
2) I think WK actually knows what he is talking about and you will look fooish when he points out (again) where you are wrong.

    Last warning!


    My quibble is about an Admin combining an administrative warning with a private opinion. WK has not “again” made me look fooish—or even foolish—not in my opinion. But his insults seem to be quite OK. Is it because he’s an Admin, too?

    I believe AdminNosy’s warning was fair. And I will comply, even if he allows Wounded King his insulting remarks and voices his agreement with them.

    —HM


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    Message 134 of 305 (393338)
    04-04-2007 1:22 PM
    Reply to: Message 133 by Fosdick
    04-04-2007 1:16 PM


    Re: Warnings v. opinions
    You're right Hoot about my voicing an opinion. Tough.

    However, WK pointed out where you are wrong. He was critisizing the facts of what you wrote --not you. You have yet to demonstrate that he was wrong.

    There have been plenty of places where you have demonstrated a lack of knowledge about the subject (or at least been unable to state what you do know clearly enough to make much sense). WK has, in my opinion frequently demonstrated that he does have some knowledge of the subject.

    I am waiting to see a real discussion of the facts put forward. It may be time for you both to start backing up your assertions with references to some literature. When all that is done we will see who does and does not know what they are talking about.


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    Fosdick 
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    Message 135 of 305 (393348)
    04-04-2007 2:21 PM
    Reply to: Message 134 by NosyNed
    04-04-2007 1:22 PM


    Re: Warnings v. opinions
    AdminNosy wrote:

    It may be time for you both to start backing up your assertions with references to some literature. When all that is done we will see who does and does not know what they are talking about.


    I'm sorry to see you say this. You obviously have not followed my arguments. I have backed up my assertions with references more often than most other posters here. Your admonition is quite misplaced in that regard.

    Nosy, what I really cannot understand is why certain posters on this forum are so opposed to putting concepts to the test, especially their principles and assumptions. How better to understand the robust meaning of a concept than to kick the stuffing out it. There are conservative mindsets on this forum who don't like their concepts kicked around. But I think concept kicking is a fair sport. And there's lot of stuffing around here that needs to be kicked out and seen for what it is. One example is the stuffing in the concept that natural selection is the master-force of evolution. Another is the concept that has sexual selection as being different from nonrandom mating. And yet another concept views sexual selection as a feature of natural selection.

    Concept kicking is a dirty job, but somebody's gotta do it.

    —HM


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