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AdminAsgara
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Message 1 of 21 (393174)
04-03-2007 6:44 PM


For April, 2007 (as per previous months):

quote:
Please post your votes for the July, 2005, Posts of the Month here. Include author, forum name, thread name, post number, eg:

Name: Velvet Tongue
Forum: Biological Evolution
Thread: I'm no monkey
Post #: 17


A link to the message, and perhap a SHORT comment would also be nice. But, this is NOT a place to debate the referenced topic - so be nice.

A fairly liberal use of this topic is a good thing for indexing some nice messages that are otherwise doomed to be lost in the clutter. So, if you encounter a message that seems to say something of special substance, please give it a plug/reference in this topic.


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Message 2 of 21 (393222)
04-03-2007 11:59 PM
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Edited by prophex, : No reason given.


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Message 3 of 21 (393697)
04-06-2007 1:13 PM


Two Noms - Crash and FallacyCop (and a third)
Sorry guys about making you share a nomination but they are awfully short posts.

In addition, half the nomination if to contrast your responses with the others which, IMNSHO, are too quick on the draw and don't get to the real point.

Message 6
Here Crash points out the deep, underlying error in the calculations. he does it succinctly.

Message 7
Here FallacyCop points out another deep flaw in understanding (this one I missed on my reading of the OP).

There is often no need to go on at length if one thinks over the issue and looks at what is really going on.

These are examples of posts that we should have more of.

However, that is not to denigrate RAZD's excellently laid out (if lengthy because they need to be) posts which I have nominated before and feel need another highlighting again.

There 3 for the price of one. Thanks guys.


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Message 4 of 21 (393854)
04-07-2007 9:58 PM


Fallacycop, at "Is creationism science?"
Name: Fallacycop
Forum: Is It Science?
Thread: Is creationism science?
Post #: 99

I'm almost shirley missing other POTM quality messages, but the above cited latched onto me.

It's short, so I'll quote almost all of it:

But even if there is a god, you (or any other creationist) do not hold exclusive rights over the word of god on earth. You (or any other creationist) have not given us any reason to believe that what you say and think is any closer to the true nature of god then anybody else (off course you may think you are, but that is assuming too much -- an act of hubris)

Given that, we are left with comparing your claims with the evidence (obtained through experiments directly from the world itself -- the only incontestable source of knowlege of god`s nature we have access to -- god`s creation). Once your claims have failed this most important test, to hold on to preconceived beliefs in the face of evidence would be insane and ungodly.

That`s why creationism is not only bad science. It`s also bad theology.

My "bolding".

Remember - No debating the topic in the POTM forum. Go back to the topic itself, to do that.

Moose

Edited by Admin, : Add "www." to message link.


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Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment.

"Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham

"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith

"I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose


  
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Message 5 of 21 (394230)
04-10-2007 11:33 AM


PurpleDawn in the Prodigal Son Thread.
In Message 18 PD does an excellent job of outlining and interpreting the Parable and also provides a compelling current version.


Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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Message 6 of 21 (394238)
04-10-2007 12:36 PM
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Re: PurpleDawn in the Prodigal Son Thread.
Thank you :)

It is one of my favorite parables.


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Message 7 of 21 (394261)
04-10-2007 2:58 PM


Dr Adequate in Reasons for Creationist Persistence
Forum: Is It Science?
Thread: Reasons for Creationist Persistence
Message: Message 36

In this message Dr Adequate provides a succinct characterization of one common type of discussion-board creationist. A short excerpt to whet the appetite:

Dr Adequate writes:

And it never occurs to them to find out if they're right. They know they're right. About subjects they haven't studied.

--Percy


  
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Message 8 of 21 (395371)
04-16-2007 3:39 AM


Lithodid-Man, Archer Opterix at "Reasons for Creationist Persistence" topic
Not POTM's of monumental proportions, but they did stand out to me.

Name: Lithodid-Man
Forum: Is It Science?
Thread: Reasons for Creationist Persistence
Post #: 130

LM writes:

The student I had so many problems this semester with is a great example...

Name: Archer Opterix
Forum: Is It Science?
Thread: Reasons for Creationist Persistence
Post #: 133

AO writes:

I'd add that one thing that keeps them going is the inability to imagine holding any other view than the one they have.

Moose (btw - the avatar of the moment (not cat) is a Bushbaby, in honor of the "Bush Baby" topic)


Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U
Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment.

"Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham

"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith

"I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose


  
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Message 9 of 21 (396388)
04-19-2007 8:22 PM


Ringo gives the fundamental definition of fundie?
Name: Ringo
Forum: Coffee House
Thread: Should the Public Airwaves be More or Less Censored?
Post #: 198

Quoted in its concise entirety:

riVeRraT writes:

They can live in the world, but they shouldn't be part of it.

That's fundie.

No further comment.

Moose


Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U
Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment.

"Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham

"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith

"I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose


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Message 10 of 21 (396390)
04-19-2007 8:34 PM


dwise1 at "The Bible was NOT man made, it was Godly made"
Name: dwise1
Forum: The Bible: Accuracy and Inerrancy
Thread: The Bible was NOT man made, it was Godly made
Post #: 80

Being a simple minded moose, I like this part:

There's a filk song (that was not a typo) called "Word of God", in which each verse ends with a refrain that changes a bit as it evolves:
"Humans wrote the Bible; God wrote the rocks."
"Humans wrote the Bible; God wrote the sky."
"Humans wrote the Bible; God wrote life."
"Humans wrote the Bible; God wrote the world."

Also much more.

Moose

Edited by Admin, : Add "www." to link.


Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U
Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment.

"Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham

"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith

"I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose


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Message 11 of 21 (396391)
04-19-2007 8:38 PM
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04-19-2007 8:34 PM


Re: dwise1 at "The Bible was NOT man made, it was Godly made"
Just beaten by the Moose.

Wholeheartedly seconded. Should be required reading for all literal inerrantists.


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Message 12 of 21 (396392)
04-19-2007 8:44 PM
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04-19-2007 8:34 PM


Re: dwise1 at "The Bible was NOT man made, it was Godly made"
I second the motion.

—HM


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Message 13 of 21 (396439)
04-19-2007 11:50 PM
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04-19-2007 8:22 PM


Re: Ringo gives the fundamental definition of fundie?
Thanks.


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Message 14 of 21 (396529)
04-20-2007 1:36 PM
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04-19-2007 8:34 PM


Re: dwise1 at "The Bible was NOT man made, it was Godly made"
Can I second it for a third time or is that fourthing it? :laugh:

An excellent post dwise1.

I like the Bible verse:

And a Bible verse, 1 Thessalonians 5:21:
KJV -- Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
New KJV -- Test all things; hold fast what is good.
NIV -- Test everything. Hold on to the good.

Wonderful read!


"Peshat is what I say and derash is what you say." --Nehama Leibowitz
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Minnemooseus
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Message 15 of 21 (396681)
04-21-2007 6:12 PM


Dr Adequate, at "The Bible was NOT man made, it was Godly made"
Name: Dr Adequate
Forum: The Bible: Accuracy and Inerrancy
Thread: The Bible was NOT man made, it was Godly made
Post #: 93

Includes quotes of testimony and links to testimony from ex-YECS Glenn Morton and Steve Robertson, who as working geologist found the value of "reading the rocks".

Moose

Added by edit: As I see it, the cited message may be an "argument from authority", and thus not really a valid debate method. Still, I think such is an effective way to argue against "young Earthism".

Edited by Minnemooseus, : See above.


Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U
Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment.

"Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham

"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith

"I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose


  
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