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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
subbie writes: I suspect that a small sample would not be enough to seriously alter the balance.... It should be possible to calculate the effect of, say, a one-gram sample. Do you have any impressive-looking mathematics to confirm your theory? I strongly believe that a theory can not be true unless its formulation has an aesthetic appeal. The better-looking it is, the truer it is. Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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Parasomnium Member Posts: 2224 Joined: |
Tazmanian Devil writes: Damn, your old. "Mature" is what I'd say...
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Parasomnium Member Posts: 2224 Joined: |
subbie writes: Well, keep that lil feller's resume handy. I understand there's going to be an oval office opening in the next year or two, he might have a shot at it. I think if we call it an "ovum" office opening, I think he might get in the right spirit and erm... plunge in, so to speak.
Do you suppose we could convince 'em that it would work from the Earth's center without being split? Don't have to. If we tell them that if they pay now it will work through time, backwards from the future. By then we will have thought of a safe way to either: (A) bring Substantium to the surface, or: (B) flee with the cash before they discover the scam. (Of course we'll not tell them about plan B.)
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subbie Member (Idle past 1254 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
Unfortunately for your attempt to refute my observations, I stubbornly cling to them with faith that they will be vindicated.
I strongly suspect you are either under-estimating or over-estimating something in your analysis. While I understand and appreciate the force of what you say, I am too wedded to my own brilliant conclusions to be moved. Spinning = dizzy. Not spinning = not dizzy. Therefore, we are not spinning. It's really much too simple to be undermined by apparently reasoned analysis that must have a mistake in it somewhere. Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
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subbie Member (Idle past 1254 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
I think if we call it an "ovum" office opening, I think he might get in the right spirit and erm... plunge in, so to speak. Quite right.
Don't have to. If we tell them that if they pay now it will work through time, backwards from the future. By then we will have thought of a safe way to either: (A) bring Substantium to the surface, or: (B) flee with the cash before they discover the scam. (Of course we'll not tell them about plan B.) Brilliant! Get right on it. Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
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subbie Member (Idle past 1254 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
I'm really more of an ideas man, a big picture concept guy. Math was never my strong suit.
Perhaps you'd be willing to help out with that? I'm sure that Parsomnium is well on the way to raising some funding, so I'd be able to pay you as soon as that starts rolling in. Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8513 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.3 |
And to think some moderator actually promoted this nonsense into a recognized “science” thread.
While Substantium (Sbt) does in faith split into both Transsubstantium (t-Sbt) and Paranormalium (Prm) it is also recognized by the greater minds, like mine, that this is due to the faith that, in bringing the Sbt to the surface you have relieved the tremendous pressure the substance was under deep in the Earth BY THE FORCE OF GRAVITY!! sheesh. You must also deal with the well known faith that the central core of this planet is an Iron-Nickel sphere and Sbt does not react well with Fe. Sbt will, on contact with any Fe, spontaneously transmute into cream cheese w/ chives . Wait a minute . So this is where . I’ll get back to you.
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Doddy Member (Idle past 5909 days) Posts: 563 From: Brisbane, Australia Joined: |
Spinning = dizzy. Not spinning = not dizzy. Therefore, we are not spinning. It's really much too simple to be undermined by apparently reasoned analysis that must have a mistake in it somewhere. Ah, but how dizzy? Surely you agree that if you spin really fast, you get more dizzy than if you slowly spin around? So it must be more complicated than you assume. As for my calculations: acceleration(centripetal)=(tangential velocity)^2/(radius) So, for a merry-go-round of 3m diameter (1.5m radius), going with a velocity of 2m/s, we have a(c)=(2 x 2)/(1.5)=2.7m/s But for the earth (where on the equator, one spins around the full 40,075,020m circumference in one day = 86400 seconds) the velocity is 462m/s and the radius, at the equator, is 6,377,563m. So we have a(c)=(426 x 426)/(6377563) = 0.028m/s So clearly, one will be dizzy to about 1% of the degree of dizziness experienced on a merry-go-round. Contributors needed in the following fields: Physical Anthropology, Invertebrate Biology (esp. Lepidopterology), Biochemistry, Population Genetics, Scientific Illustration, Scientific History, Philosophy of Science, Logic and others. Researchers also wanted to source creationist literature references. Register here!
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subbie Member (Idle past 1254 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
Sir, I take offense at your tone!
Mockery and ridicule is unbecoming to a member in good standing of an august institution such as E v. C. I welcome all serious challenges, but will have none of this. Clearly what you have said is nonsense and is intended to do no more than belittle my revolutionary idea. Even under the so-called theory of gravity, there are no gravitational forces at the center of the Earth. Thus, your suggestion not only irrationally ignores the body of evidence that I have presented in support of my proposal, it isn't even internally consistent. Consider yourself fortunate that this forum does not offer a venue for dueling, or I would call you out! You have been chastised. Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
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Adminnemooseus Administrator Posts: 3974 Joined: |
As I type this, this topic has 24 message. At the "all topic" index page, message 19 is the last listed.
We shall see if this bumps the whole thing. Adminnemooseus
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
subbie writes: Math was never my strong suit. Perhaps you'd be willing to help out with that? Here's what I have so far: F = S something something where S is the subbitational constant. There should probably be some integrals in there. They always look impressive because nobody knows what they mean - less chance of criticism that way. And subscripts - t=0 is always a good subscript, if you can fit it into the theory. Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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subbie Member (Idle past 1254 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
In addition, I have had repeated problems posting.
I suspect foul play. The scientific establishment is yet again trying to silence a maverick truth teller in order to preserve their place in the hierarchy. I shall not be silenced!!! Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
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Adminnemooseus Administrator Posts: 3974 Joined: |
Did a "rebuild forum data" for the "Is It Science?" forum. "All Topic" index now updating.
subbie writes: I shall not be silenced!!! Testing admin powers to suspend member posting privileges. Powers seem to still be working. Stand by for lifting of suspension. Adminnemooseus
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subbie Member (Idle past 1254 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
I think it's time to clarify terms so that we both understand what the other is talking about. When I said merry go round, I meant this:
From your calculations, it appears you were talking about something like this:
Putting aside for the time being the fact that mine is much more impressive looking, a much, much bigger picture, and has nice printing in it, you need to adjust for the fact that mine is at least ten times bigger than yours (talking about the merry go rounds here) so the calculations would be different. Or, looked at from your point of view, I have never been able to spend more than a minute or two on one of those tiny little spinners without feeling like I was going to toss two weeks worth of lunches. From that perspective, I would submit that 1% of that phenomenon would be easily discernable by the average person. Thus, it appears that your attempt to bolster your position has actually had the effect of strengthening mine. Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
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Doddy Member (Idle past 5909 days) Posts: 563 From: Brisbane, Australia Joined: |
Thus, it appears that your attempt to bolster your position has actually had the effect of strengthening mine. Dizziness is not comparable to centripetal acceleration, but to change in centripetal acceleration. This is why you feel dizzy when you hop off - change from 2.7m/s/s to about 0. But, you don't hop off the Earth, so won't feel dizzy. Contributors needed in the following fields: Physical Anthropology, Invertebrate Biology (esp. Lepidopterology), Biochemistry, Population Genetics, Scientific Illustration, Scientific History, Philosophy of Science, Logic and others. Researchers also wanted to source creationist literature references. Register here!
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